Nate talks Turkey, teases the upcoming Holiday episodes of the show and then sits for a chat with comedian/writer Josh Gondelman. They chat about the RISK! Podcast, Josh's childhood in Massachusetts, his exposure to comedy in his early years, finding ways to still appreciate the art of awful people, reconciling old material, being responsible while writing, his path into comedy writing, working on Billy On the Street, Last Week Tonight with John Oliver & journalism, his latest standup special, Positive Reinforcement, and releasing a comedy special on YouTube. Then, Josh tries on The Jawntlet for size.

• Josh Gondelman website
• Positive Reinforcement (Full Special - YouTube)
• WXPN Welcomes The Aimee Mann Ted Leo Christmas Show (Tickets)
• That's Marvelous newsletter
• Josh Gondelman Instagram
• Josh Gondelman Bluesky

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Back with an all new episode, Nate chats with songwriter/author Chris Dalla Riva about his new book, Uncharted Territory: What Numbers Tell Us about the Biggest Hit Songs and Ourselves. They discuss the relationship between music and data, growing up, first songs on guitar, going to college and studying math, early songwriting, writing, Chris's viral key change article, starting the Billboard listening project that would become the basis for the book, letting the data speak, the data points he compiled, what surprised him to discover in his findings, the saxophone, the demise of bands/groups on the charts, songs that were number one that he did not remember, poptimism and fandom, the value of music in the streaming era, Life of a Showgirl, new favorites found while working on the project, the best decade for music, the lost art of the instrumental, cultural stagnancy, and the recommendation algorithm. Then, Chris crunches the numbers of The Jawntlet!

• Uncharted Territory
• Chris's Book Launch Event (tickets)
• Can't Get Much Higher newsletter

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We're back (again)! Nate drops a bombshell announcement and then shares some bonus content from the interview he did with the Philly band, Kulfigirls as a guest host on Dan Drago's 25 O'Clock Podcast.

• Kulfigirls website
• Kulfigirls Instagram
• Kulfigirls Bandcamp
• 25 O'Clock Podcast

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