What happens when the very economic systems that lift millions out of material poverty also contribute to rising anxiety and depression? In part 2 of this 2-part episode, Dan Doriani sits down with Dr. Brian Fikkert - economist and co-author of When Helping Hurts - to integrate theological insight with sociological research, pushing against the limits of economic theory to participate in the broader Christian call to promote human flourishing.

What does it really mean to help the poor in ways that lead to lasting change? In this episode, Dan Doriani sits down with Dr. Brian Fikkert - economist, author, and co-author of 'When Helping Hurts, - to rethink how we approach poverty alleviation.

Brian challenges the common assumption that poverty is primarily a material problem, arguing instead that it is rooted in broken relationships - psychological, social, and spiritual as much as economic. Together, Dan and Brian explore why well-intended material solutions often address symptoms rather than causes, and why effective help must begin with a deeper, holistic diagnosis.

What does faithful leadership look like when navigating organizational turbulence? In this episode, Dan sits down with pastor, author, and current president of The Gospel Coalition Mark Vroegop to explore the hard-won lessons that emerge from leading through difficulty.

Mark brings a rare combination of perspectives: from shepherding College Park Church in Indianapolis through seasons of growth and transition to now leading one of the most influential evangelical organizations in North America. Together, Dan and Mark reflect on what they've discovered about leadership when the path forward isn't clear.

Private equity is infamous for the often-destructive "Buy, Lever, Strip, Flip" strategy. In this episode of Working with Dan Doriani, entrepreneur and investor Brent Beshore joins Dan to discuss why Permanent Equity takes a different approach—avoiding debt, embracing long-term ownership, and prioritizing the well-being of employees, communities, and investors. Tune in to this episode to hear Brent share his personal faith journey and how Jesus helps him be the best version of himself in every area of his life.

In this podcast, Dan interviews Bob Doll, former executive at BlackRock and Merrill Lynch and now CEO and CIO of Crossmark. As a successful large-cap U.S. equity investor, Bob shares insights into leadership “at the top.” He urges Dan and listeners to recognize and value the unique resources God has given them, encouraging them to use these gifts to make a meaningful, lasting impact. While we can't choose how long we live, we can choose how deeply we connect with others. We should strive to create meaningful legacies, not just impressive résumés, by being present for the people that God has placed in our lives.

Keith Getty is the songwriter behind some of the most loved and sung hymns of the twenty-first century. His credits include "In Christ Alone," Speak, O Lord," "The Power of the Cross," "By Faith," and others. On this episode of Working with Dan Doriani, Keith joins Dan to talk about his life in music: how he started in a household full of music, how he continues to fill his house with music, and why Keith believes the church needs good music.

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Anne Reitsema is the CEO of Medair, a Christian humanitarian organization that serves vulnerable people in hard-to-reach places in times of crisis. On this episode of Working with Dan Doriani, Anne joins Dan to talk about how she leads in hard places during challenging times. When pressured from multiple sides, Anne relies on her faith, her friends, her coworkers, and her belief in the value and dignity of life to maintain her capacity to lead others toward healing.

Tom Schoupe has held a variety of leadership roles in the automotive industry, the longest being his role as President of Manufacturing for Honda in Alabama. When Dan was an interim pastor in Birmingham, he had the chance to sit down in person with Tom and talk about his years in the industry. Tune in to hear Dan and Tom talk about how to add humanity to the process of making cars. Motivated by Christ's character and work, Tom has endeavored to make high-quality cars, love his employees, and create joyful opportunities for Honda drivers.

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