What does belonging at work actually look like—beyond posters and policies? Organizational culture expert Faith Clarke (engineer-turned-people-systems strategist) joins us to unpack “yes-yes” solutions, internal vs. external motivation, and how microcultures (5–8 person teams) can transform organizations. We talk listening as leadership, practicing—not preaching—values, and why work besties aren’t just emotional support humans…they’re co-creators of culture.

Top Takeaways

• Culture is practiced, not posted. Microcultures beat macroculture slogans.
• “Yes-Yes” solutions: bridge tensions so both needs are met.
• Internal > external motivation for sustainable behavior and performance.
• Belonging = shared care + protection. People stay and thrive when they feel looked after.
• Start small. Build skills interpersonally, then in small groups, then scale.
• Leaders model vulnerability. Listening with curiosity (not fixing) builds trust.
• 80/20 rule. A few changes in listening and co-creation drive most results.
• Work friendships fuel belonging and make hard work possible.

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High performance can come with hidden costs.

In this conversation, the Work Besties, Jess and Claude chat with therapist Laurel VanDerToorn, who explains why trauma and burnout can hit high achievers hard—and what real, sustainable recovery looks like. We dig into the early signs (brain fog, fatigue, cynicism), why “just take a vacation” misses the mark, and how small, repeatable behaviors compound into resilience. Laurel shares her four-layer approach—physical health → behavioral routines → deep relationships → values alignment—plus boundary-setting scripts, the Four D’s (Do, Date, Delegate, Delete), and how to protect your nervous system in 24/7 work cultures. If you’ve been feeling crispy, this one’s for you.

Key Takeaways

• High achievers face unique pressures and a heightened need for privacy.
• Vacations are a band-aid; sustainable recovery needs system-level changes.
• Catch the early signs: fatigue, brain fog, aches, rising cynicism.
• Start with small behaviors (sleep, nutrition, movement, phone hygiene).
• Physical health checks (labs, thyroid/iron) can rule out confounders.
• Relationships (yes, work besties) buffer burnout.
• Boundaries and delegation reduce overload.
• Align daily actions with personal values to lower burnout risk.
• Protect your nervous system with on-ramps/off-ramps to the workday.

Contact Laurel VanDer Toorn via her website

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What does it really mean to be an ally at work? And how can we build cultures where everyone feels seen, supported, and empowered?

In this episode of Work Besties Who Podcast, Jess & Claude sit down with Dr. Victoria Mattingly, a behavioral scientist, author, and inclusion strategist who helps organizations turn DEI from theory into daily practice.

Together, they unpack what true allyship looks like — not as a buzzword, but as an everyday commitment. From recognizing privilege to having brave conversations about equity, Dr. Mattingly breaks down how small, intentional actions can shift entire workplace cultures.

She also shares why work besties play a vital role in inclusion — creating safe spaces, amplifying each other’s voices, and modeling what real allyship looks like in action.

💡 What You’ll Learn:

• How allyship drives inclusion, diversity, and equity in the workplace
• The behavioral science behind why inclusion feels hard — and how to make it easier
• Simple, everyday actions that make a real difference
• Why uncomfortable conversations are essential for growth
• How leaders can embed DEI into decision-making and culture
• The powerful link between allyship, mental health, and belonging
• Why your work bestie might just be your greatest ally

🔑 Key Takeaways:

• Inclusion is a choice made in every interaction.
• Allyship is a practice — not a one-time act.
• DEI is good for people and good for business.
• Work besties help create the psychological safety needed for true inclusion.

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