In true Woman Evolve fashion, Sarah brings scripture, life, laughter, and love into a reminder we all need: before you get the next command, God wants you in His presence. Not rushed. Not perfect. Not pretending. Just present. This episode is for every woman navigating transition, healing from disappointment, or learning to trust God in the in-between. Tap in and let your heart catch the breath your mind has been begging for.

Sis, what happens when God calls you to do the very thing you said you'd never do? In this heartfelt conversation, Sarah Jakes Roberts and Dr. Anita Phillips get transparent about friendship, obedience, and the cost of saying yes when it changes everything. From unexpected callings to public pressure, they unpack what it means to follow God into unfamiliar territory, redefine identity after loss, and keep showing up when you feel fragile.

It's funny, honest, and deeply spiritual—the kind of conversation that reminds you that obedience isn't about being perfect; it's about being dependent. So if you've been wrestling with God's instructions or trying to rebuild after a "yes" that shook your whole world, this one's for you.

When the pressure is on, do you shut down or shine up? In this powerful convo, Sarah Jakes Roberts sits with Dr. Sarah Elizabeth Lewis and Dr. Anita Phillips to talk creativity, the gift of failure, and how to separate your work from your worth. They unpack why dreaming can feel risky right now, how to handle pressure without losing your identity, and what it means to build on what broke. From "turning heat into light" to seeing art as a path toward justice, this episode will meet you where it hurts and remind you there is purpose in your process. If you've been grieving a job loss, navigating a creative dry spell, or questioning your next move, press play and get language, wisdom, and courage for the season you're in.
Keywords: Sarah Jakes Roberts, Dr. Sarah Elizabeth Lewis, The Rise, Dr. Anita Phillips, creativity, failure, resilience, faith, mental health, Black women, vision and justice.