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Wit + Grit

Wit + Grit

De: PJ Ellis and Andy Dawson
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We’re PJ Ellis and Andy Dawson - two dads, two mates, who’ve spent our lives working across business, law, education, charity, and media. Between us, we've made a lot of mistakes, asked a lot of questions, and raised kids who are about to walk into a world of work that’s nothing like the one we grew up in. That’s why we started Wit + Grit - a space for real, human conversations about what it takes to thrive in a world full of AI, constant pressure, and curated perfection. This podcast is about the skills you can’t Google. Things like confidence, resilience, emotional intelligence, how to fail well, how to bounce back, how to speak up, and how to listen. We’re not here to give perfect advice. We’re here to ask better questions. How do we prepare our kids for jobs that don’t exist yet? How do we connect generations in a divided, digital world? What makes someone truly employable in 2025 and beyond? Each episode, we’ll chat with educators, grads, parents, leaders, misfits, mentors, and all-round brilliant people who’ve lived through the stuff that doesn’t come with a textbook. If you’re a parent, a young person starting out, an old-head or experienced leader, or just someone trying to figure out how to be more human in a world full of noise - this one’s for you. Follow us, subscribe, and let’s have the conversations that matter - with a bit of humour, a lot of honesty, and absolutely no corporate jargon. You can connect with us at: https://www.linkedin.com/company/107731497/ LinkedIn: PJ Ellis & Andy Dawson Let’s get into it.Copyright 2026 PJ Ellis and Andy Dawson Ciencias Sociales Economía Exito Profesional Relaciones
Episodios
  • Daniel Wilsher's iOS Update: Shedding Identity + Rebuilding from Within
    Feb 16 2026

    In this powerful and deeply honest conversation, Daniel Wilsher shares what he calls his “iOS update” - a shedding of identity.

    After years of building his public platform around the suicide of his father and his own mental health journey, Daniel realised something profound:

    The story that built him, no longer fits him.

    From losing his dad at 9, battling addiction, therapy, public speaking, Channel 4’s The Piano, and impacting 25,000 students in 20 days, Daniel reflects on identity, reinvention, masculinity, hope, parenting, resilience, and the responsibility we all share for the next generation.

    This is not an episode about trauma.

    It’s an episode about evolution.

    About what happens when the thing that made you, isn’t who you are anymore.

    Takeaways

    • Identity can evolve - even when the world expects you to stay the same

    • Behavioural change is slow - give yourself grace (20% after 6 months is still progress)

    • We are not designed to do life alone - build and use your support network

    • Young people don’t need “toughening up” - they need modelling, leadership and challenge

    • Praise can transform identity faster than punishment

    • Who you become matters more than what you achieve

    • Businesses have a role in shaping the next generation

    • Service without expectation fills the cup

    • Solitude and reflection are performance tools, not luxuries

    • Sometimes growth means shedding the skin that once protected you

    Keywords

    Daniel Wilsher, mental health, identity shift, personal reinvention, parenting in 2025, resilience, behavioural change, leadership, masculinity, hope for young people, school mental health, social media impact, ADHD, public speaking, trauma recovery, service leadership, solitude, reflection, LifeX program, youth development, corporate social responsibility, mentoring young men

    Chapters

    00:00 – The “iOS Update”

    02:00 – Shedding the story that built you

    05:30 – Why behavioural change takes longer than you think

    09:30 – The power of male support networks

    13:00 – 100 talks in 20 days: the school tour

    16:30 – The student who couldn’t name one good thing about himself

    20:00 – What to tell a 15-year-old finding his way

    22:00 – Working with kids vs corporates

    24:00 – “Kids need to toughen up” — response to leaders

    30:00 – Social media, AI & parenting in 2025

    39:00 – Filling your own cup

    44:00 – Daniel’s spoken word: Reflections

    46:00 – What’s next? LifeX & the HOPE program

    50:00 – Final takeaways

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    51 m
  • Joel Blake: It’s Not Who You Know - It’s Who Knows You
    Feb 9 2026

    Joel Blake is a private client solicitor at Wilkes, a Future Faces ambassador, and a Greater Birmingham Young Professional of the Year winner - but his story starts in Dudley, navigating limited role models and plenty of “you’ll never make it” moments.

    In this episode, Joel shares how rejection shaped his resilience, why confidence is built over time, and the mantra that changed everything: it’s not who you know, it’s who knows you. We also dig into imposter syndrome, bridging generational gaps at work (including “upward mentoring”), and why networking works best when it’s human, not transactional.

    If you’re a young professional trying to find your way - or a leader who wants to build a stronger team culture - this one’s for you.

    Key takeaways

    Rejection is part of the process - consistency beats talent when you keep showing up.

    “It’s not who you know, it’s who knows you.” Put yourself in rooms and build real relationships.

    Authenticity wins long-term - pretending to be someone else is exhausting (and unnecessary).

    Networking isn’t transactional - it’s about genuine conversations and playing the long game.

    Upward mentoring matters - juniors bring value too; trust is built in the small moments.

    Working-class background = strength - it can become your edge for empathy, rapport, and connection.

    Get comfortable being uncomfortable - growth lives on the other side of fear.

    Keywords

    Joel Blake, Wilkes, private client solicitor, Future Faces, Greater Birmingham Chamber of Commerce, young professionals, Birmingham, West Midlands, Dudley, Jamaican heritage, social mobility, imposter syndrome, confidence, networking, mentorship, upward mentoring, leadership, trust, resilience, rejection, career development, professional services, law careers, authenticity, workplace culture, generational leadership, community, opportunity

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Joel Blake

    01:57 Joel's Upbringing and Early Aspirations

    06:55 Overcoming Challenges and Building Resilience

    12:10 Career Journey at Wilkes

    16:32 Navigating Change in the Legal Profession

    21:14 Building Confidence and Professional Growth

    24:14 Fostering Collaboration Across Generations

    25:30 Unveiling Surprising Aspects of Personal Growth

    27:00 The Power of Authentic Networking

    30:09 Pride in Regional Development

    34:13 Vision for the Future: Inspiring the Next Generation

    36:00 Empowering Young Professionals through Future Faces

    38:31 Overcoming Self-Doubt and Embracing Authenticity

    40:43 Encouragement for the Underestimated

    43:36 Setting Ambitious Goals for 2026

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    47 m
  • Everybody Needs a Gandalf Stick: Courage and Leadership with Lisa Butler
    Feb 3 2026

    In this conversation, Lisa Butler shares her inspiring journey from an 18-year military career to becoming a coach and advocate for courage and leadership.

    She discusses overcoming early challenges, the importance of resilience, and how her military experience shaped her understanding of courage.

    Lisa emphasises the need for individuals to be brave in their personal and professional lives, the significance of recognising and supporting others' struggles, and the role of boundaries in maintaining mental well-being.

    She introduces her upcoming initiative, The Courage Collective, aimed at fostering a supportive community for personal growth and empowerment.

    Takeaways

    1. Dreams start with tea and ginger biscuits.
    2. Importance of having that road track in your mind.
    3. Blow things up if you can.
    4. Courage shows up every day.
    5. There's a real importance of knowing who your people are.
    6. Help people to be brave.
    7. Be fierce in your own agency.
    8. We miss opportunities if we are not brave.
    9. Speak up about things that are wrong.
    10. Everyone needs a Gandalf stick.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Lisa Butler's Journey

    02:50 Overcoming Early Challenges and Building Resilience

    05:45 Military Career and Lessons Learned

    08:57 Transitioning to Coaching and Leadership

    11:54 The Importance of Courage in Today's World

    14:42 Recognising and Supporting Others in Need

    26:51 Navigating the 'I'm Fine' Culture

    29:20 Inner Child Work and Rebuilding Confidence

    31:57 Transforming Limiting Beliefs

    35:29 The Importance of Values and Boundaries

    42:12 Creating Community and Courage

    50:05 Empowering Responses to Demeaning Language

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    47 m
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