In this episode, former England international rugby player Luther Burrell shares his journey from professional sports to philanthropy, discussing identity, race, and mental wellbeing.

He reflects on his transition from elite sports, the challenges of finding purpose post-retirement, and the importance of networking and community impact.

Luther emphasises the power of honesty, resilience, and creating positive change through his foundation.

Luther Burrell, rugby, identity, race, mental wellbeing, philanthropy, transition, networking, community impact, resilience

1. Good people will find good people.
2. Throw mud at the wall until the good thing sticks.
3. Be honest with yourself.
4. No one is coming to you with a magic wand.
5. Those that you meet on the way up, you'll meet on the way back down.
6. Power of deconstructing yourself.
7. Always have a no dickhead policy, but stress test this ASAP.
8. The importance of breathing.
9. Focus on the controllables.
10. A problem shared is a problem halved.

00:00 Introduction to Luther Burrell

03:15 Life After Professional Sport

08:30 Survival Mode: The Transition Challenge

15:11 Asking for Help: Breaking Down Barriers

21:06 What Do I Have to Offer?

30:22 Building High-Performing Teams

32:56 Building a Culture of Accountability

34:48 The Role of Emotional Intelligence in Leadership

37:30 Navigating Racism in Sports

42:28 The Impact of Philanthropy and Community Work

50:23 Transformative Power of Sport

57:04 Inspiring the Next Generation

In this reflective episode, PJ and Andy pause to mark a milestone: 21 episodes down.

What started in June 2025 with a simple decision - “let’s just press go” - has become a powerful lesson in momentum, confidence, and learning through action.

They explore why perfection is often the enemy of progress, how confidence is built through doing (not thinking), and why most people underestimate the value of simply staying in the game.

From Roger Federer winning just 53% of the points he ever played, to the importance of lead vs lag measures, mental fitness, trusting your gut, and protecting your time - this conversation is a grounded, honest look at what really moves things forward.

This isn’t a how-to episode. It’s a perspective shift.

A reminder that clarity can come after motion - not before it.

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KEY TAKEAWAYS

1️⃣ Momentum creates clarity - not the other way around

Waiting to feel “ready” keeps most people stuck. Pressing go creates feedback, confidence, and direction you can’t think your way into.

2️⃣ You’ve got to be able to fail to win

Roger Federer won just 53% of the points he ever played. The difference wasn’t perfection - it was his ability to reset and play the next point.

3️⃣ Confidence is evidence-based

Real confidence doesn’t come from affirmations.

It comes from giving the world irrefutable proof that you are who you say you are — by showing up and doing the work.

4️⃣ Consistency beats intensity

Some days are 100%.

Some days are 5%.

Doing something keeps momentum alive — and momentum compounds.

5️⃣ Lead measures matter more than money (early on)

Downloads, conversations, invitations, engagement, feedback - these are signs you’re moving in the right direction long before revenue appears.

6️⃣ Protect your time like it’s your most valuable asset

Because it is.

Time is often given away to people, jobs and tasks that don’t serve us - and we rarely get it back.

7️⃣ Don’t do it alone

Ideas grow faster - and more safely - when shared. Having someone alongside you helps challenge blind spots, build belief, and avoid isolation.

🎯 WHO THIS EPISODE IS FOR

• Anyone sitting on an idea

• Founders and creators early in the journey

• People struggling with confidence or overthinking

• Anyone who feels stuck waiting for “the right time”

• Those navigating change without a clear rulebook

🧠 CORE THEMES

• Pressing go

• Momentum vs perfection

• Confidence through action

• Failure and resilience

• Mental fitness

• Trusting your gut

• Time, energy and priorities

• Learning on the job

Chapters

00:00 Setting the Stage: The Journey Begins

02:42 Momentum and Growth: The Power of Starting

05:21 Learning Through Experience: The Value of Failure

08:17 Defining Success: Beyond Financial Metrics

11:10 Time Management: Prioritizing What Matters

14:34 Trusting Your Gut: Navigating Risks in Business

17:15 The Importance of Community and Feedback

20:08 Physical and Mental Fitness: Foundations for Success

22:57 Iterating and Evolving: What’s Next for the Podcast?

25:48 Final Thoughts: Encouragement for Aspiring Creators

Summary

In this episode, siblings Peggy and Will Crawford discuss their unique career paths and shared experiences.

Peggy, a data analyst and semi-pro poker player, shares insights into the poker world and her journey in content creation.

Will, founder of Quiet Note, talks about integrating mindfulness and music to improve mental wellbeing.

They explore the challenges and rewards of their respective fields, emphasising resilience, passion, and the importance of mental health.

The conversation also touches on their supportive sibling relationship and future aspirations.

Let's get into it.

Keywords

siblings, poker, mindfulness, mental wellbeing, content creation, resilience, passion, mental health, Quietnote, career paths

Takeaways

• Peggy Crawford is a data analyst and poker player.
• Will founded Quiet Note, focusing on mindfulness and music.
• Resilience and passion are key to success.
• Mental health is a priority for both siblings.
• Peggy shares insights into the poker world.
• Will integrates music and mindfulness for wellbeing.
• The siblings support each other's careers.
• Future aspirations include expanding their ventures.
• They emphasise the importance of mental health.
• The conversation highlights their unique career paths.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the Crawfords

01:21 Peggy's Journey in Poker and Data Analysis

03:51 Will's Mindfulness and Music Business

06:53 Daily Routines and Work-Life Balance

09:49 Innovative Approaches to Mental Health

12:36 Sibling Dynamics and Collaboration

15:22 The Intersection of Poker and Strategy

18:06 Advice for Young Entrepreneurs

20:38 Mindset and Resilience in Business

23:25 The Importance of Patience and Purpose

28:39 Rituals and Habits for Grounding

32:33 Mindfulness in Poker and Life

36:05 Building Community Through Poker

39:52 Future Aspirations in Poker and Business

44:21 Advice for the Next Generation