Why the Best eCommerce Brands Spend More Time on Boxes Than Ads With Jason Wong

Jason Wong is the Founder and CEO of Paking Duck, which provides custom packaging solutions for DTC brands. Before launching Paking Duck, he built and scaled multiple DTC ventures, including Saucy, an end-to-end sourcing and logistics company, and the beauty brand Doe Lashes, which reached significant valuations under his leadership. Jason started his career as a teen entrepreneur in blogging, affiliate marketing, and e-commerce before expanding into international logistics, manufacturing, and supply chain operations.

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Most founders obsess over ads, creative, and conversion rates — but overlook the one thing every customer physically touches. Packaging is often treated as a cost to minimize rather than an asset to optimize. How can the box on your customer's doorstep increase retention, reduce costs, and drive revenue?

Packaging manufacturing expert and e-commerce entrepreneur Jason Wong maintains that packaging can be a growth lever. He explains that packaging should be designed as a marketing channel inside the home — something customers proudly display, turning it into a mini billboard that keeps your brand top of mind. Jason advises founders to engineer packaging strategically by reducing dimensional weight to lower shipping costs, reinforcing structural integrity to prevent refunds and chargebacks, and designing with storytelling in mind to strengthen brand perception. When approached holistically, packaging moves from a backend expense to a compounding growth asset.

In this episode of the Up Arrow Podcast, William Harris sits down with Jason Wong, Founder and CEO of Paking Duck, to discuss how packaging drives e-commerce growth. Jason explains why packaging is a revenue driver, how smarter structural design reduces shipping costs and damage, and the common mistakes founders make when optimizing purely for cost.