Why Passion Alone Isn’t Enough to Build a Business That Lasts: Who You Work With Matters Episode 105

In this episode of Who You Work With Matters, Aaron Levine sits down with Chuck Mathews, cofounder of Matsen Consulting, to explore what actually makes small and mid-sized businesses succeed and why passion alone isn’t enough.

After spending decades inside large organizations, Chuck chose a different path by helping business owners reconnect with why they started, then building the systems, processes, and discipline needed to turn that passion into consistent performance.

From operational efficiency and decision-making to leadership, resilience, and execution, this conversation is a masterclass for founders who want a business that works, not one that works them.