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Where The Wild Thoughts Are

Where The Wild Thoughts Are

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We’re talking about science. But not just any science...

Each episode, journalist Jo Marchant meets researchers who are doing things differently: challenging our assumptions, stretching our minds, and changing how we see the world.

We’ll be pushing boundaries from cosmology and quantum physics to neuroscience, archaeology, ecology… Jo’s guests are asking deep questions, chasing outrageous dreams, and exploring the world in completely new ways.

As well as learning about their pioneering ideas, we’ll hear their personal stories: what inspires their leaps of imagination; how they keep going despite the obstacles; the importance of thinking differently; and why we need creativity to survive. But most of all, Where The Wild Thoughts Are is about the wonder of peeking past supposed limits. Come into the wild with us, for a glimpse of what’s beyond…

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Jo Marchant & Julian Mayers
Ciencia Ciencias Biológicas Física
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  • Can we talk to whales?
    Sep 29 2025

    This week we’ll be diving into the world of whales - as well as dolphins and other cetaceans - with biologist and filmmaker Tom Mustill, author of the fascinating book How to Speak Whale. I first learned about Tom’s work in 2023 when I attended a talk he gave at the British Library, and he began with the story of how on a kayaking trip he was almost crushed by a breaching humpback whale.

    After that experience, and the discovery that the whale may actually have saved his life by twisting in the air to avoid him, Tom became fascinated by the inner lives of these creatures, and by the exploding potential of technology, including AI, to monitor and understand what they’re getting up to beneath the waves. And there was one question he wanted to answer most of all about their complex communications: could we ever learn to understand them, even talk to them?

    That might seem a crazy question, but the availability of massive amounts of data, combined with AI algorithms, is now opening a door to decoding the patterns and structures in the vocalisations of all kinds of species, like a kind of Google Translate but for animals.

    I caught up with Tom to talk about the latest results, as well as what it’s like to be caught underneath a falling humpback - and why we should stop comparing animals’ abilities to ours, and instead open our minds to other kinds of experiences, to the alien horizons of their lives and worlds.

    Tom’s home page

    https://www.tommustill.com/

    Tom’s book, How To Speak Whale: A voyage into the future of animal communication

    https://www.tommustill.com/how-to-speak-whale

    Footage of the humpback whale landing on Tom and Charlotte

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee79_7CZ0uM

    How to be a whale: a half-hour listening journey

    https://www.tommustill.com/howtobeawhale

    Project CETI

    https://www.projectceti.org/

    Earth Species Project

    https://www.earthspecies.org/

    Happy Whale

    https://happywhale.com/home

    Tom’s humpback

    https://happywhale.com/individual/1437

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  • Can we sense magnetic fields?
    Sep 22 2025

    This week, we're digging into how living creatures – including us – sense and respond to magnetic fields with quantum biologist Margaret Ahmad of the University of Sorbonne in Paris.

    For decades, biologists knew about striking examples of species apparently navigating by Earth’s magnetic field, from monarch butterflies to loggerhead turtles to racing pigeons. Yet for years, many physicists said any ‘magnetosense’ was impossible, insisting the Earth’s field is far too weak to affect any biological processes within living cells. And yet, life really had found a way, and Margaret was one of the key researchers who showed how.


    Back in the 1990s, she discovered a blue light receptor in plants, part of a mysterious family of proteins called cryptochromes, and she has since has pioneered research showing how these receptors don’t just sense light but magnetic fields, too. Through quantum physical effects, these proteins magnify impossibly weak magnetic signals into measurable biological responses in a cell.

    For Margaret, this connection with the magnetic fields around us is a fundamental characteristic of all life, that should transform our thinking about everything from bird migration, to plant growth, to health effects in humans – and might even lead to revolutionary medical treatments. I spoke to her about her research, what it’s like doing science ‘out on a limb’, as she puts it, and what to do when the evidence leads you off the beaten track…

    Margaret Ahmad at Sorbonne University

    https://www.ibps.sorbonne-universite.fr/en/ibps/directory/17216-Margaret-Ahmad


    Hypersensitivity to man-made electromagnetic fields: 2024 case report

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39108419/


    2024 review on cryptochromes

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38495372/

    New Scientist story I wrote about Ahmad’s work in 2020 (£)

    https://www.newscientist.com/article/2251835

    2021 review on the bird magnetic compass

    https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/physiology/articles/10.3389/fphys.2021.667000/full

    Roswitha Wiltschko’s lab

    https://www.goethe-university-frankfurt.de/47093824/Physiology_and_Ecology_of_Behaviour

    Some bacteria sense magnetic fields via magnetite crystals. It's possible these play a role in other species too, maybe even humans

    https://www.eneuro.org/content/6/2/ENEURO.0483-18.2019.abstract

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  • Herculaneum scrolls: Cracking the impossible
    Sep 15 2025

    This week, we delve into one of the ancient world's biggest mysteries: the Herculaneum scrolls. Computer scientist Brent Seales of the University of Kentucky talks about a journey that has taken him from Mars to Beowulf to the Dead Sea and beyond. AI has been key to finally reading what's inside the scrolls -- but this is a story about human ingenuity, and what it takes to make an impossible dream come true.

    These are hundreds of Greek and Latin papyri, buried by the Vesuvius eruption in 79 AD and dug up in the 1700s. The scrolls were crushed and carbonised; when anyone tried to read them, they crumbled. Scholars had to accept the rest would never be opened.

    This is the only intact library we have from the classical world – complete texts, direct from the pens of ancient scribes. Yet we can’t read them.

    Until now. These unopenable scrolls are now being read, through the Vesuvius Challenge, which offers prizes for teams using AI to find the ink in X-ray scans. I’ve written several articles on this, and the pace of discovery has been jawdropping: scholars could soon read the whole library.

    But solving this problem hasn't just been about switching on AI. For me, the truly fascinating story is the 20 years of imagination, invention and persuasion that led to this point, all essentially due to one man who persevered even when everyone else thought the idea was crazy.


    Brent Seales

    https://educelab.engr.uky.edu/w-brent-seales

    Vesuvius Challenge

    https://scrollprize.org/

    Schmidt Sciences

    https://www.schmidtsciences.org/focus-area-ai/


    My articles:


    Scaling up the Vesuvius Challenge: Apr 2025

    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-01087-y


    AI could rewrite history: Jan 2025

    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-04161-z


    First passages revealed: Feb 2024

    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-00346-8


    Brent Seales' quest: Jul 2018

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/buried-ash-vesuvius-scrolls-are-being-read-new-xray-technique-180969358/

    Journal papers:


    Reading En-Gedi scroll

    https://www.science.org/doi/full/10.1126/sciadv.1601247

    Recovering Herculaneum ink

    https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article/?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0215775


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