When Fear Takes the Wheel

Bill welcomes comedian, Uber driver, bartender, DJ, and all-around interesting human Doug Phelps into the studio—and Doug doesn’t show up empty-handed. He brings Bill a mysterious gift that Bill immediately refers to as an offering, setting the tone for a wide-ranging, funny, and unexpectedly thoughtful conversation.

The episode dives into shared experiences with the Catholic Church, including the unforgettable story of Bill’s father writing a resignation letter to the church—and how the life decisions his father made helped shape the man Bill is today. After a quick pause to check an audio issue (hey, it’s podcasting), Doug opens up about resolutions, why he never tells anyone his goals, and why Bill thinks that’s absolutely genius.

From years of wrestling (including old-timers tournaments—no singlet required) to classic dad jokes, the laughs keep coming. But things also get real as Bill and Doug tackle the topic of fear—how controlling it can be, how it shows up differently for everyone, and how it quietly steers so many of our decisions.

They break down a protest video Doug sent Bill, discuss fear on both sides of a tragic ICE shooting in Minnesota, and explore how unfiltered access to adult content on smartphones affects people of all ages. The conversation turns personal as they reflect on how fear has held them back—from comedy careers and rejection to dating, tough conversations, and politically loaded discussions that people are afraid to have at all.

Along the way, Bill fields a text about hosting comedy shows, talks about answering family questions about the new Buffalo Bills stadium (even when there’s a twinge of fear), and wraps things up with a powerful reminder: when fear grabs the steering wheel of life, take a deep breath and remember—it’s just a moment.

Funny, honest, and surprisingly deep—this is one you don’t want to miss.


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