A mutual contact on X reached out to me and recommended I get in touch with Jeff and I'm glad that I did. Jeff shares his journey from military service to civilian life, discussing the challenges and rewards of transitioning out of the military. He reflects on the connection between his faith and military values, the cultural shifts in attitudes towards Christianity, and the unique challenges faced by the Catholic Church in America. The discussion also touches on the importance of understanding life, the role of science in faith discussions, and the insights provided by Jeff's book, 'Unforeseeable: a Bargain with Time: The Cost of a Better Tomorrow' - a story that helps a society of non-believers who are not shaped through the morality of Christianity to see the consequences of actions that they otherwise might think of as being good.

You can check out Jeff's book and purchase it here on Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DZ91XTDD

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🔥 Show Notes:

In this powerhouse episode of What’s the Point Anyway, host Luke sits down with Dr. John Bergsma—renowned biblical scholar, convert, and senior fellow at the St. Paul Center for Biblical Theology—for a theologically rich, deeply personal, and spiritually moving conversation.

🚨 You’ll hear:

• Dr. Bergsma’s journey from Dutch Calvinist pastor to Catholic theologian
• Why sola scriptura and sola fide didn’t hold up under biblical scrutiny
• How Catholicism reveals the Church as the Davidic Kingdom
• A stunning breakdown of the Eucharist, the priesthood, and biblical continuity
• What Catholics and (yes) Preterists surprisingly have in common
• The "already and not yet" of biblical prophecy—and why the Catholic Church is Eden restored
• How Catholic faith becomes real when suffering hits home

✨ With references to St. Ignatius of Antioch, Isaiah 66, Revelation 22, and Hebrews, Dr. Bergsma provides profound insights that will challenge, deepen, and inspire your view of Scripture, tradition, and the purpose of the Church.

📌 Whether you're a cradle Catholic, curious Protestant, or just spiritually hungry—this is an episode you won’t want to miss.

I highly recommend Dr Bergsma's latest book, Jesus and the Jubilee: The Biblical Roots of the Year of God's Favor which you can purchase here: stpaulcenter.co/Jubilee

And here is a link to his free digital companion: stpaulcenter.co/jubileecompanion

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https://www.instagram.com/john.s.bergsma

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Catherine is a fellow Aussie who I was connected to via our mutual friend and former guest, Rick Welch. Though we both have come to similar conclusions on our Biblical studies, we recorded this episode right after I'd converted to the Catholic Church and it was interesting to 'compare notes' given Catherine grew up Catholic but has arrived at a different conclusion to myself.

We spoke about the importance of understanding the spiritual implications of biblical knowledge, the role of authority in church dynamics, and the personal journeys that lead to shifts in belief. Catherine shares her experiences transitioning from being part of cult-like Christian denominations to ultimately leaving that world and embracing fulfilled eschatology.

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