• Building Trust and Saving Lives: Insights From Crisis Negotiator Mentor Geno Dorough
    Feb 28 2026
    Few things have the same impact as an effective mentor. Many moons ago, a man named Geno Dorough taught a class on Barricaded Individuals, and set the life of Pat Doering - The Crisis Cop, on a course for training crisis negotiators around the globe. Who is this man? What in the world did Pat learn from him? What stories, perspectives and deep down truths have and continue to power this gentleman's sway on the lives of so many? You'll find it all and more inside this episode of The Crisis Cop Podcast as Pat's original mentor, Geno Dorough, visits in-studio to share everything with you... Be sure to Like Subscribe and Share this episode of The Crisis Cop Podcast on The 2GuysTalking Podcast Network via WhatCopsWatch.Com... The Crisis Cop Podcast Podcast Links Bar: Connect with The Host! Subscribe to This Podcast Now! This program is one of the many parts of The WhatCopsWatch.Com Effort! Rate this podcast on Apple Podcasts. the Ultimate success for every podcaster is FEEDBACK! Not an Apple Podcasts user? No problem! Be sure to cherck out any of the other many growing podcast directories online to find this and many other podcasts on The 2GuysTalking Podcast Network! Housekeeping -- The Editor Corps - Make Your Podcast Soar: There's only one question to ask: Why are YOU still editing your podcast? Reclaim the time you spend on editing (easily at least twice the time you spend on capturing the program) to make more great content by enlisting "The Editor Corps" who will "Make Your Podcast Soar!" http://EditorCorps.Com -- The Voice Farm: Fred Wilkerson, Mike's Father that died in the first few days of 2018, always dreamed of a place that those interested in Voiceover could go to learn more about the industry and experience - without all the BS that goes with it. We build it four and a half years go and it continues to provide new voiceover artists and businesses looking for voiceover talent a place to go and secure great voiceover artists. http://VoiceFarmers.Com Two Great Ways to Listen/Watch! We are proud to provide you both a dedicated AUDIO and VIDEO presentation for this program! To Listen Now: Hit the play button in the player on this page or hit the Subscribe button on your favorite Podcast Directory to instantly get these episodes when they release! To Watch Now: Visit this program on YouTube, or hit the window located below to see the hosts, guests and light bulb moments that make this program special! https://youtu.be/HLhJ4lbEn9I The Detailed Shownotes for This Episode of The Crisis Cop Podcast: Looking for the detailed links, information and references used inside this episode? Read on below to find them all and remember to reach out to ask if there's something else you'd like to see from this episode! Timestamps for This Episode of The Crisis Cop Podcast: 00:00 "Prioritizing Negotiation and Life Preservation" 08:11 "Sharing Negotiation Knowledge and Insight" 13:00 Challenges in Leadership and Crisis Philosophy 17:30 "Guide to Law Enforcement Communication" 22:35 Managing Armed Suicidal Situations Tactfully 28:19 "Tragic End to Volatile Standoff" 34:40 "Challenges and Sacrifices of Officers" 40:45 "Serious Commitments and Sacrifices Needed" 44:53 Balancing Negotiations and Internal Crises 51:09 "Practicing Empathy and Respect in Law Enforcement" 57:19 "Impact and Joy of Mentorship" 01:01:07 "Passion and Connection in Training" Questions Answered Inside This Episode of Cops and Robbers Talk: Mentorship & Influence: How did mentorship (or the lack thereof) shape Geno Dorough - Retired Crisis Negotiator’s approach to crisis negotiation, and how did he later become a mentor himself? Negotiation Philosophy: What is the “4 Rs” philosophy discussed in the episode, and how can it be applied to both emotional and physical barriers in crisis negotiation? Communication Skills: How does the difference between verbal and nonverbal communication affect outcomes during barricaded or crisis situations? Emotional Impact: The episode touches on the emotional toll crisis negotiation can have. How do negotiators cope with traumatic incidents, and what resources are available today compared to earlier years? Legacy & Lessons: What does Geno Dorough - Retired Crisis Negotiator hope his legacy in the field will be, and how does passing on knowledge help shape the next generation of negotiators? Changing Practices: How have responses to suicidal individuals changed over time, and what are the implications for law enforcement and community safety? Training & Professionalism: Why is it important for all officers (not just negotiators) to receive training on communication and emotional management, and what impact does this have on the public’s perception of police? Tactical vs. Negotiation: How did Geno Dorough - Retired Crisis Negotiator’s unique experience as both a tactical officer and negotiator help bridge the gap between these teams, and why is congruence in messaging crucial? ...
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  • Community Connections, the Future of Policing Youth & Humanizing Justice
    Feb 15 2026
    The headlines are filled with calls for attention when it comes to today's youth, what they're doing with their time and how the Police are supposed to handle it. What do YOU know about Juvenile Crime Rates in today's major metropolitan cities? How about the impact of the existing police elements, their overall goals and focuses? There's a LOT to discover inside this episode of The Black and Blue Voices Podcast as the hosts welcome former police officer, police chaplain and speaker Anthony C. Meyers to shares detailed perspective, experience and stories to help give everyone a well-rounded view of what's going on in the world today - as well as to ask some very fair questions that beckon your answer. Are you ready to provide YOUR perspectives? Are you ready to explore deep conversations that truly need to be had in today's communities? To find out, the play button must simply be pushed... The BlackandBlueVoices.Com Podcast Links Bar: Connect with The Host! Subscribe to This Podcast Now! This program is one of the many parts of The WhatCopsWatch.Com Effort! Rate this podcast on Apple Podcasts. the Ultimate success for every podcaster is FEEDBACK! Not an Apple Podcasts user? No problem! Be sure to check out any of the other many growing podcast directories online to find this and many other podcasts on The 2GuysTalking Podcast Network! Housekeeping -- The Editor Corps - Make Your Podcast Soar: There's only one question to ask: Why are YOU still editing your podcast? Reclaim the time you spend on editing (easily at least twice the time you spend on capturing the program) to make more great content by enlisting "The Editor Corps" who will "Make Your Podcast Soar!" http://EditorCorps.Com -- The Voice Farm: Fred Wilkerson, Mike's Father that died in the first few days of 2018, always dreamed of a place that those interested in Voiceover could go to learn more about the industry and experience - without all the BS that goes with it. We build it four and a half years go and it continues to provide new voiceover artists and businesses looking for voiceover talent a place to go and secure great voiceover artists. http://VoiceFarmers.Com Two Great Ways to Listen/Watch This Episode of Black and Blue Voices! We are proud to provide you both a dedicated AUDIO and VIDEO presentation for this program! To Listen Now: Hit the play button in the player on this page or hit the Subscribe button on your favorite Podcast Directory to instantly get these episodes when they release! To Watch Now: Visit this program on YouTube, or hit the window located below to see the hosts, guests and light bulb moments that make this program special! https://youtu.be/59ut-NbE9HU?si=WZUducxRcY6CX9ZB The Detailed Shownotes for This Episode of Black and Blue Voices: Looking for the detailed links, information and references used inside this episode? Read on below to find them all and remember to reach out to ask if there's something else you'd like to see from this episode! 1. Juvenile Justice System & Reform Juvenile Justice Information Exchange (JJIE) – Reporting and resources on juvenile crime, reform efforts, and best practices. Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention (OJJDP) – U.S. government agency supporting improvements in youth justice systems. Annie E. Casey Foundation: Juvenile Justice – Research and programs aimed at youth justice reform. 2. Community Policing & Public Safety National Initiative for Building Community Trust & Justice – Resources on building trust between police and the communities they serve. Community-Oriented Policing Services (COPS) – U.S. Department of Justice resource hub for community policing. What Is Community Policing? (National League of Cities) – Primer and resources. 3. Racial Disparity & Equity in Justice The Sentencing Project: Racial Disparity – Research and stats on racial disparities in the criminal justice system. NAACP Criminal Justice Resources – Advocacy and education on equity in policing and youth justice. 4. Youth Intervention & Prevention Programs Police Athletic/Activities League (PAL) – Programs that provide mentorship, sports, and safe activities for youth in partnership with law enforcement. Big Brothers Big Sisters of America – Community-based youth mentoring. 5. Societal Factors & Community Development Brookings Institution: Place Matters – The Role of Neighborhoods in Shaping Child and Adult Outcomes – Research on how community environment impacts youth decisions. Urban Institute: Social Determinants of Health and Safety – How education, housing, and social support influence public safety. 6. Mental Health, Faith-Based Interventions & Redemption National Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI) – Resources for addressing mental health in justice-involved populations. Faith & Freedom Coalition – Role of faith-based organizations and mentoring in rehabilitation and justice reform. 7. Recent Events and Historical...
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  • Did Criminal Minds Get Crisis Negotiation & Mental Health Details Right?
    Feb 6 2026
    We all know that television and movies simply don't have enough time to give us what REALLY happens in Law Enforcement circles, in particular, Crisis Negotiation but - what IS Hollywood giving us when it comes to Crisis Negotiation and understanding Mental Health? The answer is reasonably horrifying. There are so many details, scenarios, perspectives and processes that have to be shoved into a 43-minute package, and it's time to find out what Hollywood is offering us from Crisis Negotiator Trainer, Pat Doering, The Crisis Cop and Crisis Negotiator and Clinical Psychologist Dr. Morgan Krumeich. It's time for a Perspective Review of Criminal Minds, Season 1, Episode 9 - "Derailed" via WhatCopsWatch on The 2GuysTalking Podcast Network. The Perspective Reviews Podcast Connection Links: Connect with The Host (and View Direct Contact information Below!) Subscribe to This Podcast & Listen Now! Subscribe, Like, and Share Everywhere! Help Perspective Reviews Grow! Rate this Podcast on iTunes! The ultimate success for every podcaster – is FEEDBACK! Be sure to take just a few minutes to tell the hosts of this podcast what YOU think over at iTunes! It takes only a few minutes but helps the hosts of this program pave the way to future greatness! Not an iTunes user? No problem! Be sure to check out any of the other many growing podcast directories online to find this and many other podcasts on The 2GuysTalking Podcast Network! Links to Enjoy This Film! It's easy to have the same great experience from this film as we go! Hit the links below and get your copy of the film's soundtrack, score or even the movie itself! Housekeeping -- The Crisis Cop Podcast: Check it Out! https://CrisisCop.Com -- Calling All Future Role Players! Got a knack for acting and thinking on your feet? Train the future of Law Enforcement via Crisis Negotiation and Tell Us You're Interested Today! https://BlueBaggersProject.Com -- WhatCopsWatch/2GuysTalking is Now an Official USCCA Business Partner! -- Free Field Training: Inside this episode we welcome Officer Tommy Mottl from Free Field Training on YouTube (and now, from The Free Field Training Podcast effort) to share his perspective on - literally - the area that he has intimate knowledge about in the South Chicagoland area... Two Great Ways to Listen/Watch! We are proud to provide you both a dedicated AUDIO and VIDEO presentation for this program! To Listen Now: Hit the play button in the player on this page or hit the Subscribe button on your favorite Podcast Directory to instantly get these episodes when they release! To Watch Now: Visit this program on YouTube, or hit the window located below to see the hosts, guests and light bulb moments that make this program special! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JByG1f9o2bo Timestamps for This Episode: 00:00 "Crisis Negotiation Training Insights" 14:34 FBI Training Scenarios Experience 23:55 "Power of Great Writing" 32:47 "Security Guard's Fatal Moment" 50:43 "Phenomenal Film on Schizophrenia" 53:31 "Negotiation and Priest Protocol" 01:08:31 "Realistic Brainstorming in Negotiations" 01:20:35 "Hostage Rescue Tactical Insights" 01:23:10 "Critical Hostage Communication Strategy" 01:40:37 Ron Howard's Passionate Direction 01:48:45 Situational Awareness and Safety 01:56:56 "Revenge and Obsession Spiral" 02:13:01 "Crisis, Counselors, and Modern Solutions" 02:17:57 "Surviving Trauma and Loss" 02:31:16 "Entertainment's Unsteady Landscape" 02:36:10 WhatCops Watch: Next Episode Questions from This Episode: How accurately do you think Criminal Minds portrayed crisis negotiation and mental health issues in this episode, based on the insights shared byPat Doering, Mike Wilkerson and Dr. Morgan Krumeich What impact does the lack of realistic negotiation strategy in the TV episode have on viewers’ understanding of real-life crisis response? Pat Doering and Mike Wilkerson share personal experiences with real-life hostage scenarios and negotiations. What stood out to you most in their comparisons between Hollywood and reality? The episode discusses the importance of not “playing into” a subject's delusions during negotiation. Why might affirming a delusional belief be risky, and what are alternative approaches? The team talks about the integration of mental health professionals into law enforcement responses. What are the potential challenges and benefits discussed concerning this collaboration? Both hosts and Dr. Morgan mention the rise in mental health-related crisis calls. How do you think police departments can best equip themselves to handle these situations? The episode criticizes the decision to send an additional "hostage" (Spencer) into the crisis situation as unrealistic and dangerous. Why is this problematic from a tactical and negotiation standpoint? With so much of the episode’s critique revolving around writing choices for suspense versus realism, do you think it’s possible for TV dramas to balance ...
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  • Tickets to Your Favorite Gun Show: The Cooper 270 Rifle
    Jan 28 2026
    Family is one of the most-powerful dynamics we incorporate into our lives. Even more powerful than the explosives used in hunting. The hunting rifle has always been a centerpiece in our hunting lives, but one thing remains true when it comes to Tickets to Your Favorite Gun Show - Where are the CANADIANS AT? The answer is plain, clear and - right here. Father, Crisis Negotiator and Author - from Canada, Sean Pollock has some tremendous educational information when it comes to not just this literal piece of art, but also to what it's legacy means to now many generations of his family in the great white north. Sean is here to share his love, showcase and stories about the Cooper 270 hunting rifle, inside this episode of 2GuysTalkingGuns... The 2GuysTalkingGuns Podcast Links Bar: Connect with The Host! Subscribe to This Podcast Now! This program is one of the many parts of The WhatCopsWatch.Com Effort! Rate this podcast on Apple Podcasts. the Ultimate success for every podcaster is FEEDBACK! Not an Apple Podcasts user? No problem! Be sure to check out any of the other many growing podcast directories online to find this and many other podcasts on The 2GuysTalking Podcast Network! -- 2GuysTalking Guns/2GuysTalking is Now an Official USCCA Business Partner! Housekeeping -- The USCCA - Education, Peace of Mind and More: The USCCA is a centerpiece of education for 2GuysTalkingGuns, in that Mike Wilkerson is a USCCA-Certified Firearms Instructor. Be sure to check out the USCCA to understand the benefits of incident insurance that goes far deeper than simply events involving a firearm. Protect your family by educating yourselves about the USCCA. 2GuysTalking is an Official Partner Organization of The USCCA. https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/ -- The Editor Corps - Make Your Podcast Soar: There's only one question to ask: Why are YOU still editing your podcast? Reclaim the time you spend on editing (easily at least twice the time you spend on capturing the program) to make more great content by enlisting "The Editor Corps" who will "Make Your Podcast Soar!" http://EditorCorps.Com -- The Voice Farm: Fred Wilkerson, Mike's Father that died in the first few days of 2018, always dreamed of a place that those interested in Voiceover could go to learn more about the industry and experience - without all the BS that goes with it. We build it four and a half years go and it continues to provide new voiceover artists and businesses looking for voiceover talent a place to go and secure great voiceover artists. http://VoiceFarmers.Com Foster the Goals and Connect with 2GuysTalkingGuns: It's EASY to do it all! Whether you're sending us equipment, gear or your latest doo-dad, or want to get the T-shirts that foster our educational goals you can do it all here! Send your items to us at: 2GuysTalking 1200 Lake Saint Louis Boulevard Lake Saint Louis, MO 63367 Connect with us via our quick web form or socials listed above... Two Great Ways to Listen/Watch! We are proud to provide you both a dedicated AUDIO and VIDEO presentation for this program! To Listen Now: Hit the play button in the player on this page or hit the Subscribe button on your favorite Podcast Directory to instantly get these episodes when they release! To Watch Now: Visit this program on YouTube, or hit the window located below to see the hosts, guests and light bulb moments that make this program special! https://youtu.be/FWPh3XUqw18 The Detailed Shownotes for This Episode of 2GuysTalkingGuns: Looking for the detailed links, information and references used inside this episode? Read on below to find them all and remember to reach out to ask if there's something else you'd like to see from this episode! Timestamps for This Episode of 2GuysTalkingGuns: 00:00 Overview of Canadian Hunting Seasons 08:53 "Perfect Rifle Fit and Loyalty" 13:47 Understanding Rifle Performance Essentials 18:06 "Passion for Hunting Over Precision Shooting" 23:07 "Teen Daughter's Remarkable Bear Hunt Story" 28:45 Waterfowl Guiding: Reconnecting Through Shared Struggles 34:32 "Cooper Rifles: Semi-Custom Craftsmanship and Passion" 45:01 Optimizing Hunting Rifle Optics and Light 52:27 "Exploring New Frontiers in Hunting" 54:07 Exploring Reloading: A New Shooting Passion 01:04:46 From Law Enforcement to Crisis Negotiation Career 01:05:47 "Passion for Crisis Negotiation Work" Questions Answered Inside This Episode of 2GuysTalkingGuns: Sean Pollock describes his journey from hunting with his dad's old Lee Enfield to discovering Cooper rifles. What does this evolution say about the importance of fit and personal connection to a firearm? The episode delves into the unique challenges of hunting in Canada, especially extreme temperatures. How does climate impact firearm maintenance and usage, according to Sean Pollock? Sean Pollock mentions his preference for leaving firearms outside in cold temperatures rather than bringing them indoors. Why is this method ...
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  • High Stakes Decisions Crisis Negotiators Face: A Conversation with Jack Cambria
    Jan 6 2026
    Jack Cambria spent 34 years in the New York City Police Department and is the longest-serving commander of the Hostage Negotiation Team. From his early days on patrol in Brooklyn, to scaling bridges with the Emergency Services Unit, and on through the pivotal moments of leading alongside negotiators through some of the city's toughest crises—including the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks—Jack Cambria shares firsthand stories and insights about what it takes to manage high-stakes negotiations and make life-saving decisions. In this conversation, you'll hear about the strategies and teamwork that define successful crisis negotiation, the emotional realities of working cases that don't always end well, and the importance of learning from both victories and mistakes. Jack Cambria offers advice for aspiring negotiators, shares memorable incidents from his long career, and candidly addresses the lessons developed in the field over decades. Whether you're in law enforcement, interested in negotiation tactics, or curious about the human side of policing, this episode promises to give you a rare glimpse behind the scenes with someone who helped shape the profession. Be sure to Like Subscribe and Share this episode of The Crisis Cop Podcast on The 2GuysTalking Podcast Network via WhatCopsWatch.Com... The Crisis Cop Podcast Podcast Links Bar: Connect with The Host! Subscribe to This Podcast Now! This program is one of the many parts of The WhatCopsWatch.Com Effort! Rate this podcast on Apple Podcasts. the Ultimate success for every podcaster is FEEDBACK! Not an Apple Podcasts user? No problem! Be sure to cherck out any of the other many growing podcast directories online to find this and many other podcasts on The 2GuysTalking Podcast Network! Housekeeping -- The Editor Corps - Make Your Podcast Soar: There's only one question to ask: Why are YOU still editing your podcast? Reclaim the time you spend on editing (easily at least twice the time you spend on capturing the program) to make more great content by enlisting "The Editor Corps" who will "Make Your Podcast Soar!" http://EditorCorps.Com -- The Voice Farm: Fred Wilkerson, Mike's Father that died in the first few days of 2018, always dreamed of a place that those interested in Voiceover could go to learn more about the industry and experience - without all the BS that goes with it. We build it four and a half years go and it continues to provide new voiceover artists and businesses looking for voiceover talent a place to go and secure great voiceover artists. http://VoiceFarmers.Com Two Great Ways to Listen/Watch! We are proud to provide you both a dedicated AUDIO and VIDEO presentation for this program! To Listen Now: Hit the play button in the player on this page or hit the Subscribe button on your favorite Podcast Directory to instantly get these episodes when they release! To Watch Now: Visit this program on YouTube, or hit the window located below to see the hosts, guests and light bulb moments that make this program special! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yyK-P2MnjA The Detailed Shownotes for This Episode of The Crisis Cop Podcast: Looking for the detailed links, information and references used inside this episode? Read on below to find them all and remember to reach out to ask if there's something else you'd like to see from this episode! Timestamps for This Episode of The Crisis Cop Podcast: 00:00 "Emergency Service: Multifunctional Unit" 10:01 "Negotiation Training: Essentials and Growth" 11:12 "Recognizing Crisis Transition Triggers" 20:16 "Rescue on the Kosciuszko Bridge" 21:38 "Detective Questions and Marital Tension" 29:16 Cross Complaint Investigation Unfolds 34:00 "Snipers, Glass, and Strategy" 41:11 "Waco Siege: 52-Day Standoff" 46:12 "Hostage Team Ride-Along" 49:34 Sniper Team Supervision Guidelines 58:10 "Negotiations Require Policing Experience" 58:58 "Experienced Negotiators and Crisis Resolution" 01:07:10 "Evolution of Negotiation Protocols" 01:10:33 Negotiation Legacy and Advocacy Questions Answered Inside This Episode of Cops and Robbers Talk: Career Pathways: What were the pivotal moments in Speaker A’s career that led him from emergency service to leading the Hostage Negotiation Team, and how did those experiences shape his approach to crisis negotiation? Mentorship & Learning: How did mentorship play a role in Speaker A’s professional growth, and what can we learn from his reflections on learning both from skilled negotiators and those who made mistakes? Team Dynamics: According to the episode, what is the importance of teamwork in crisis negotiation, and how does the role of a coach during face-to-face negotiations impact the outcome? Body Language & Communication: How do negotiators use non-verbal cues and body language during high-stakes, face-to-face negotiations, such as jumper scenarios? Why is this skill critical? Decision Making: The episode discusses the transition from negotiation to ...
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  • Crisis Negotiation Insights with Gary Noesner: From Waco to Building Team Success
    Nov 26 2025
    You likely know the word Waco, but what do you think when I say the name Gary Noesner? Well, Gary was there during Waco and many other incidents throughout his decades long career in the FBI. Today on the Crisis Cop podcast you're going to learn more about Gary Noesner. Be sure to Like Subscribe and Share this episode of The Crisis Cop Podcast on The 2GuysTalking Podcast Network via WhatCopsWatch.Com... The Crisis Cop Podcast Podcast Links Bar: Connect with The Host! Subscribe to This Podcast Now! This program is one of the many parts of The WhatCopsWatch.Com Effort! Rate this podcast on Apple Podcasts. the Ultimate success for every podcaster is FEEDBACK! Not an Apple Podcasts user? No problem! Be sure to cherck out any of the other many growing podcast directories online to find this and many other podcasts on The 2GuysTalking Podcast Network! Housekeeping -- The Editor Corps - Make Your Podcast Soar: There's only one question to ask: Why are YOU still editing your podcast? Reclaim the time you spend on editing (easily at least twice the time you spend on capturing the program) to make more great content by enlisting "The Editor Corps" who will "Make Your Podcast Soar!" http://EditorCorps.Com -- The Voice Farm: Fred Wilkerson, Mike's Father that died in the first few days of 2018, always dreamed of a place that those interested in Voiceover could go to learn more about the industry and experience - without all the BS that goes with it. We build it four and a half years go and it continues to provide new voiceover artists and businesses looking for voiceover talent a place to go and secure great voiceover artists. http://VoiceFarmers.Com Two Great Ways to Listen/Watch! We are proud to provide you both a dedicated AUDIO and VIDEO presentation for this program! To Listen Now: Hit the play button in the player on this page or hit the Subscribe button on your favorite Podcast Directory to instantly get these episodes when they release! To Watch Now: Visit this program on YouTube, or hit the window located below to see the hosts, guests and light bulb moments that make this program special! https://youtu.be/2LgI3OosOdw?si=2-huzk1Bbev-pBAm The Detailed Shownotes for This Episode of The Crisis Cop Podcast: Looking for the detailed links, information and references used inside this episode? Read on below to find them all and remember to reach out to ask if there's something else you'd like to see from this episode! Timestamps for This Episode of The Crisis Cop Podcast: 00:00 FBI Negotiator's Extensive 30-Year Career 03:15 Origins of FBI Negotiation Training 08:26 "Lessons from Hostage Negotiations" 10:32 "Waco: Negotiation Success and Challenges" 13:34 "Conflicting Strategies in Negotiations" 17:37 "Tragedy and Blame on Koresh" 21:15 Development of the HOBAS Data System 28:04 Team Collaboration Enhances Negotiation Success 33:18 "Former FBI Agent Shares Story" 34:11 "Journey of Writing and Editing" 40:04 Formation of National Negotiation Collective 42:03 Guidelines for Viable Negotiation Programs 46:07 July 4th, Beeper, and Crisis 50:25 "Empathy and Connection in Negotiation" 52:32 "Expert Insights on Negotiation Strategies" 55:05 Advocating for Negotiation-Driven Solutions 58:10 "Reflecting on Negotiations and Saving Lives" Questions Answered Inside This Episode of Cops and Robbers Talk: Gary Noesner - Crisis Negotiator describes “stalling for time” as a core negotiation strategy. What are the potential advantages and disadvantages of this approach in high-stakes crisis situations? The episode covers some common misconceptions about the Waco incident. Based on Gary Noesner - Crisis Negotiator's perspective, how do media narratives shape public understanding of law enforcement actions during major crises? Negotiations are often described as a team effort, contrary to Hollywood portrayals of lone negotiators. What are the key roles on a negotiation team, and how do they contribute to successful outcomes? Gary Noesner - Crisis Negotiator emphasizes the importance of “active listening” skills. Why do you think active listening became such a transformative practice in crisis negotiation, and can you think of examples outside law enforcement where these skills are essential? The episode discusses how organizational leadership can sometimes be at odds with negotiation teams during incidents like Waco. What are some strategies negotiators can use to gain and maintain the trust of incident commanders? Reflecting on the aftermath of Waco, what lessons were learned that changed FBI and police procedures in crisis negotiations going forward? Are these changes still relevant today? The HOBA system was developed to gather statistics on negotiation situations. How can data collection and analysis improve future crisis negotiation tactics and outcomes? Gary Noesner - Crisis Negotiator argues that “negotiations never fail.” Do you agree with this statement? Why or why not? What ...
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  • Leadership, Legacy, and Lifesaving: Hostage Negotiation Wisdom From Bob Beach
    Sep 30 2025
    The word legacy is used a lot nowadays. However, our next guest is the capital Ellen legacy, especially in the world of hostages negotiations. Bob be spent over 50 years in law enforcement. He became a hostage negotiator in the early 80s and helped start the Metro Washington group in 1985. This group brought negotiators from DC, Maryland and Northern Virginia together to share expertise, knowledge and training. Bob is going to share his knowledge, expertise and stories in this episode of the Crisis Cop Podcast. It's time for another episode of The Crisis Cop Podcast on The 2GuysTalking Podcast Network via WhatCopsWatch.Com... The Crisis Cop Podcast Podcast Links Bar: Connect with The Host! Subscribe to This Podcast Now! This program is one of the many parts of The WhatCopsWatch.Com Effort! Rate this podcast on Apple Podcasts. the Ultimate success for every podcaster is FEEDBACK! Not an Apple Podcasts user? No problem! Be sure to cherck out any of the other many growing podcast directories online to find this and many other podcasts on The 2GuysTalking Podcast Network! Housekeeping -- The Editor Corps - Make Your Podcast Soar: There's only one question to ask: Why are YOU still editing your podcast? Reclaim the time you spend on editing (easily at least twice the time you spend on capturing the program) to make more great content by enlisting "The Editor Corps" who will "Make Your Podcast Soar!" http://EditorCorps.Com -- The Voice Farm: Fred Wilkerson, Mike's Father that died in the first few days of 2018, always dreamed of a place that those interested in Voiceover could go to learn more about the industry and experience - without all the BS that goes with it. We build it four and a half years go and it continues to provide new voiceover artists and businesses looking for voiceover talent a place to go and secure great voiceover artists. http://VoiceFarmers.Com Two Great Ways to Listen/Watch! We are proud to provide you both a dedicated AUDIO and VIDEO presentation for this program! To Listen Now: Hit the play button in the player on this page or hit the Subscribe button on your favorite Podcast Directory to instantly get these episodes when they release! To Watch Now: Visit this program on YouTube, or hit the window located below to see the hosts, guests and light bulb moments that make this program special! https://youtu.be/R8A7-Ji0qXk The Detailed Shownotes for This Episode of The Crisis Cop Podcast: Looking for the detailed links, information and references used inside this episode? Read on below to find them all and remember to reach out to ask if there's something else you'd like to see from this episode! Timestamps for This Episode of The Crisis Cop Podcast: 00:00 Virginia Law Enforcement Career Journey 06:00 "Learning Hostage Negotiation: An Influential Journey" 14:37 Crisis Negotiation Skill Development 19:51 Negotiation Misconception: The "LA Effect" 24:17 "Intelligence Gathering: The Initial Focus in Crisis Response" 26:44 "Tony's Attempts to Reach Mom by Phone" 36:35 "Coping with Crisis Negotiation Stress" 41:20 Seven Corners Hostage Situation Unfolds 42:24 Successful Hostage Negotiation and Resource Coordination 51:33 Identifying and Motivating Committed Team Members 56:53 Police Recruitment and Retention Issues 01:01:57 Reviving Schlossberg-Boltz-Isendorfer Legacy 01:04:59 Appreciation and Encouragement for Professional Expertise Questions Answered Inside This Episode of Cops and Robbers Talk: Legacy Building: Bob Beach spent over 50 years in law enforcement and helped start the Metro Washington group for hostage negotiators. What role does legacy play in shaping specialized units like crisis negotiation teams, and how can current negotiators build on that legacy? Path to Negotiation: Bob described being “bit by the hostage negotiator bug” after a career in patrol and K9. How do different paths within law enforcement contribute to a well-rounded negotiator, and what unique skills do those experiences bring? The Negotiation Triangle: Bob emphasized the importance of the “triangle” model—command, tactical, negotiation. Why is it crucial for these three components to work seamlessly together, and what goes wrong when they don’t, as seen in cases like Waco and Ruby Ridge? Peer-to-Peer Learning: The episode highlights how early negotiators shared information and strategies, even before modern communication tools existed. How does peer mentorship and collaboration continue to shape effective crisis negotiation training today? Dealing with Resistance: Bob encountered resistance from some departments about the negotiation process, viewing it as just a “delay tactic.” Why does this mindset exist, and what strategies can negotiation leaders use to overcome it? Emotional Toll: Bob openly discussed how 24/7 on-call responsibility and commitment to the job affected his personal life. How can law enforcement agencies better support negotiators to manage the...
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  • Was “Defund the Police” the Worst Marketing Effort of All Time?
    Aug 15 2025
    Looking back years now, with a lot of history, perspective and samples from every side imaginable, can we say that "Defund the Police" was the worst marketing effort ever created? There have been a lot of slogans that pepper the tapestry of history, both in positive and negative ways, but has this one featured more destruction than others? Has it carved out a platform that justice that allows the oppressed to be identified and get their final fair day in justice? Time to jump in with Chief Chris, Brandon, Eric and Mike to find out what their thoughts are but more important - to find out what YOU think during this episode of The Black and Blue Voices Podcast. The play button is the only way to find out... The BlackandBlueVoices.Com Podcast Links Bar: Connect with The Host! Subscribe to This Podcast Now! This program is one of the many parts of The WhatCopsWatch.Com Effort! Rate this podcast on Apple Podcasts. the Ultimate success for every podcaster is FEEDBACK! Not an Apple Podcasts user? No problem! Be sure to check out any of the other many growing podcast directories online to find this and many other podcasts on The 2GuysTalking Podcast Network! Housekeeping -- The Editor Corps - Make Your Podcast Soar: There's only one question to ask: Why are YOU still editing your podcast? Reclaim the time you spend on editing (easily at least twice the time you spend on capturing the program) to make more great content by enlisting "The Editor Corps" who will "Make Your Podcast Soar!" http://EditorCorps.Com -- The Voice Farm: Fred Wilkerson, Mike's Father that died in the first few days of 2018, always dreamed of a place that those interested in Voiceover could go to learn more about the industry and experience - without all the BS that goes with it. We build it four and a half years go and it continues to provide new voiceover artists and businesses looking for voiceover talent a place to go and secure great voiceover artists. http://VoiceFarmers.Com Two Great Ways to Listen/Watch This Episode of Black and Blue Voices! We are proud to provide you both a dedicated AUDIO and VIDEO presentation for this program! To Listen Now: Hit the play button in the player on this page or hit the Subscribe button on your favorite Podcast Directory to instantly get these episodes when they release! To Watch Now: Visit this program on YouTube, or hit the window located below to see the hosts, guests and light bulb moments that make this program special! https://youtu.be/4PH0gdJS-FA?si=74d_X5sBYiu0Kp4y The Detailed Shownotes for This Episode of Black and Blue Voices: Looking for the detailed links, information and references used inside this episode? Read on below to find them all and remember to reach out to ask if there's something else you'd like to see from this episode! Timestamps for This Episode of Black and Blue Voices: 00:00 "Community Trust and Political Grandstanding on Policing" 06:56 Origins of Defunding Police Debate 13:11 Balancing Police Militarization and Mental Health Resources 20:24 "Role-Playing Scenario: Dual School Shooter Event" 22:45 Dual Approach to Crisis Management 26:57 Active Shooting Situations Analysis Podcast 34:09 SWAT Team Mistake and Miscommunication 41:11 "Rethinking Nighttime Police Raids and Trust" 43:19 Law Enforcement and Unequal Accountability 53:07 Bipartisanship Drives Successful, Informed Legislation 57:09 Tribalism in Modern Rapid Change 01:02:40 Dynamic Debates: Expanding Conversational Boundaries 01:08:13 Welcoming Atmosphere Boosts Customer Loyalty 01:11:42 Detaching Identity from Political Views 01:16:04 Embracing Open, Impactful Conversations Questions Answered Inside This Episode of Black and Blue Voices: "Defund the Police" Slogan: The episode discusses how "defund the police" became a rallying cry after the George Floyd incident. What do you think were the original intentions behind this slogan, and why do you think it became so controversial or misunderstood? Community Trust: Several speakers mention the issue of trust between law enforcement and communities, especially communities of color. What practical steps could be taken to rebuild or strengthen this trust? Police Equipment and Militarization: The hosts touch on the topic of local police departments acquiring military-grade equipment. What are the potential benefits and drawbacks of local police having access to such equipment? Handling Mental Health Crises: The role of police in responding to mental health crises was highlighted, with suggestions for bringing in mental health professionals. What would an ideal crisis response team look like in your community? Legislation and its Impact: The hosts talk about laws like "Breonna's Law" and the push for new legislation after high-profile incidents. What kind of legislative changes do you think would make the most positive impact on both police and the community? Political Grandstanding: The group criticizes "grandstanding" politicians who use ...
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