What Leadership Failures Are Driving Firefighters Out?

Fire departments aren’t struggling to find people. They’re struggling to keep them. In this episode of The C.A.N. Report, host Mike Goldstein welcomes guest Lyle McKay, a captain from Ogunquit Fire Department, in Maine. McKay speaks from experience to break down what’s actually pushing firefighters to walk away: weak leadership, ignored voices, and cultures that haven’t kept up with the job.

The problem isn’t pay alone. It’s showing up to a station where no one listens, where feedback goes nowhere, and where leaders stop growing the moment they get promoted. McKay lays out a different approach, built on three pillars: leadership, culture, and development.