Climate change discussions usually end in shouting matches about melting glaciers and coal jobs. But what happens when a liberal and a conservative actually sit down to talk through the science, the solutions, and the politics without trying to win? Today we're tackling the topic that's supposedly dividing America, and discovering we might have more common ground than cable news wants you to believe.

Climate change doesn't care about your political party. Neither do rising energy costs, extreme weather events or global economic competition in clean technology sectors.

Maybe we need to stop treating climate policy like a zero-sum game between environmentalists and economists. The countries that figure out clean, affordable, reliable energy will have massive advantages in the coming decades. That could be us, if we can get past the political theater.

We don't have to agree on every detail of climate science to agree that America should lead in energy innovation. We don't have to choose between environmental protection and economic growth if we're smart about how we pursue both.

RESOURCES MENTIONED:

Climate Feedback: https://climatefeedback.org/evaluation/wall-street-journal-article-repeats-multiple-incorrect-and-misleading-claims-made-in-steven-koonins-new-book-unsettled-steven-koonin/

Scientific American: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/that-obama-scientist-climate-skeptic-youve-been-hearing-about/

Landman scene: https://youtu.be/fmbZwxEnAFc?si=ULiyV_j9JaPVWLW1

The Climate Deniers Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-climate-deniers-playbook/id1694759084?i=1000706646820

Conservative on Climate Change: https://citizensclimatelobby.org/

Forbes: https://www.forbes.com/sites/bobeccles/2023/12/31/what-ive-learned-from-conservatives-who-are-addressing-the-challenge-of-climate-change/

NOAA Report March 2025: https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/monitoring/monthly-report/global/202503

Solar South Article: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pmbnpqZK2ucmgqg1vwvnCFC3r8k_dRuXMTCUZuGcHik/edit?pli=1&gid=1975818729#gid=1975818729

Trump post: https://nypost.com/2025/06/01/us-news/trump-shares-wild-conspiracy-theory-that-joe-biden-was-replaced-by-soulless-mindless-clones/

Drama Club NYC:

What happens when a liberal starts watching Fox News and a conservative dives into The New York Times? We decided to find out. For 10 days, we deliberately consumed each other's preferred media sources to see if we'd been living in completely different realities.

I (Nicole) typically get my news from The New York Times, The Daily podcast, and Ezra Klein. Jolene gravitates toward Fox News, America's Newsroom, and The Free Press. For 10 days, we switched sides to see what we'd been missing - or avoiding.

In a time when we're told that Americans have never been more divided, maybe the real problem isn't our differences - it's that we've stopped trying to understand each other.

RESOURCES MENTIONED:

Straight Arrow News: https://san.com/

Ezra Klein Show: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-ezra-klein-show/id1548604447

The Daily: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-daily/id1200361736

The Headlines: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-headlines/id1758855019

America’s Newsroom: https://www.foxnews.com/shows/americas-newsroom

World News Tonight: https://abcnews.go.com/world-news-tonight-with-david-muir

The Free Press: https://www.thefp.com/

Tangle: https://www.readtangle.com/

1440: https://join1440.com/

Gavin Newsom/Frank Luntz podcast episode: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/this-is-gavin-newsom/id1798358255?i=1000708420132

LINKS:

On Instagram https://www.instagram.com/wevegottotalk/

On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WeveGotToTalk

How to find Nicole https://nicolefonarow.com/

How to find Jolene https://dibledough.com/

Some conversations are too important to avoid just because they're uncomfortable. Toda, Jolene brought questions to the table that she's been wrestling with and wanted my (Nicole's) take on as a liberal Democrat:

Can you love America without being racist?

Should we forgive student loans or is that unfair to people who already paid?

And what's really in those Epstein files?

These are the discussions happening in your head that you're afraid to say out loud - so we're saying them for you.

RESOURCES MENTIONED:

• The Joe Rogan Experience: James Talerico https://youtu.be/_jOGPvMftb8?si=WUkWVuwG0uT9peD9
• Hunter Biden Full Interview: https://youtu.be/XBbkt2vYC4M?si=LkJZdrMmoq1e7lEy
• Lee Greenwood Song Jolene loves: https://youtu.be/-KoXt9pZLGM?si=WE-xwaDreSR81nic
• Ember Coffee Cup: https://ember.com/

LINKS:

On Instagram https://www.instagram.com/wevegottotalk/

On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WeveGotToTalk

How to find Nicole https://nicolefonarow.com/

How to find Jolene https://dibledough.com/

A politician launches a meme coin and makes millions overnight while regular investors lose their shirts. Sound familiar? It should, because it's the same story that's been playing out for decades - just with different players and shinier packaging. Today we're taking a look at Trump's latest money grab and asking the question nobody in Washington wants to answer: Why do the rules seem different for the people making them?

The solution might not be to elect different politicians - it could be changing the rules so that public service means actual service, not personal enrichment. Blind trusts, trading restrictions, real transparency - these aren't radical ideas, they're basic ethics questions.

Many scandals follow a similar pattern: outrage, investigation, strongly worded statements, and then... not much changes. The system might protect itself because the people with the power to change it are often the same people benefiting from it. Trump's meme coin could be just the latest example of a much deeper issue.

Maybe we need to stop thinking about this as left versus right and start recognizing it as up versus down. The wealthy and connected versus everyone else. Until we're willing to have that conversation honestly, we might keep seeing the same patterns repeat.

CHAPTER MARKERS:

00:00 Introduction

00:26 Wealth Inequality and Initial Reactions

00:52 Trump's Financial Maneuvers

01:34 Market Manipulation and Insider Trading

03:46 Comparisons and Broader Implications

10:47 Congressional Trading and Corruption

14:06 Debating Government and Wealth

21:53 Government Systems and Inefficiencies

23:12 Discovering the Government Mine

24:34 Homelessness and Wealth Inequality

26:16 Tax Structures and Corporate Benefits

29:08 Political Influence and Stock Trading

32:19 Social Programs and Their Impact

36:18 The Randolph-Shepherd Act

RESOURCES MENTIONED:

Scott Galloway Snippet:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DJj57tKPMPm/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Full Episode:

https://youtu.be/b_Uy8W75J8k?si=YvBqIzY6sDxWIJPU

Quiver Quantitative:

https://www.quiverquant.com/

Randolph Shepherd Act:

https://rsa.ed.gov/about/programs/randolph-sheppard-vending-facility-program#:~:text=The%201936%20act%20was%20enacted,vending%20facilities%20in%20federal%20buildings.

LINKS:

On Instagram https://www.instagram.com/wevegottotalk/

On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WeveGotToTalk

How to find Nicole https://nicolefonarow.com/

How to find Jolene https://dibledough.com/

When did ordering coffee become a political statement? When did choosing a grocery store require checking their donation records? Everything in America has become a battlefield - immigration, crime, even due process. Today we tackle the exhausting reality of living in a country where literally everything gets filtered through red and blue lenses, and ask the question nobody wants to answer: How do we fix this mess?

The truth is, most Americans want the same things: safe communities, economic opportunity, fair treatment under the law. We disagree on methods, not goals. But our political system profits from division, so we get fed a steady diet of outrage instead of solutions. The media gets clicks, politicians get donations, and we get more frustrated and divided.

America wasn't always this polarized. We've had heated political debates before without turning family dinners into war zones. The difference now is that we've let politics become our primary identity instead of just one part of who we are. We've forgotten that the person who votes differently than you might still be a good neighbor, parent, or friend.

The solution isn't to stop caring about politics - it's to start caring about people more than political points. It's to hold our elected officials accountable for governing instead of performing. It's to choose curiosity over combativeness and solutions over slogans.

CHAPTER MARKERS:

00:00 Introduction

03:23 Debate on Checks and Balances

05:15 Media Influence and Misinformation

07:12 Immigration and Due Process

20:52 Congress and Executive Actions

26:52 Reflecting on Immigration Policies

29:37 Correcting Misconceptions About Domino's Pizza

32:49 Political Motivations and Media Influence

34:56 Encouraging Unity and Understanding

38:34 Personal Reflections and Drumming Passion

45:06 Fun 'Would You Rather' Questions

RESOURCES MENTIONED:

Good for the Soul: Tim Ferris and Terry Real

The Therapist Who Breaks All The Rules — Terry Real

LINKS:

On Instagram https://www.instagram.com/wevegottotalk/

On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WeveGotToTalk

How to find Nicole https://nicolefonarow.com/

How to find Jolene https://dibledough.com/

When a progressive candidate wins NYC's Democratic primary, Republicans immediately cry "socialism" while Democrats are optimistic about change. Nicole and Jolene examine whether expanding city services is actually radical or just what every other developed country already does.

This episode explores the weaponization of political labels, why Democratic voters are choosing progressives over moderates, and whether America is ready for policies that prioritize people over profits. From free childcare to the fear of Venezuela comparisons, we tackle the real questions behind the headlines.

Two friends proving that political opposites can have productive conversations about the future of American democracy.

CHAPTER MARKERS:

00:00 Introduction

00:23 New York City Politics and Rank Choice Voting

02:23 Concerns About Socialist Policies

03:44 Antisemitism and Middle Eastern Politics

06:49 Personal Voting Experiences

10:47 Mamdani's Campaign Strategies

18:52 Debating Mamdani's Policies

24:36 Democratic Party's Future and National Politics

34:59 Tom Till's Decision and Trump's Extremism

35:14 Border Crossings and Immigration Issues

35:44 Trump's Achievements and Consequences

36:31 Political Division and Unity

38:06 Democratic Party and Mamdani's Win

39:55 Antisemitism and Muslim Representation

44:11 American Values and Socialism Debate

47:26 Medicaid and State Rights

52:46 Political Smear Campaigns

53:36 Mental Health Crisis and Policing

RESOURCES MENTIONED:

Good for the Soul:

Jon Stewart and Trevor Noah: https://youtu.be/44uC12g9ZVk?si=NmF2-E2zkb8yXPGz

Steven Eugene Kuhn https://www.instagram.com/steveneugenekuhn/?hl=en

LINKS:

Our website: https://www.wevegottotalk.com/

On Instagram https://www.instagram.com/wevegottotalk/

On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WeveGotToTalk

On Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/weve-got-to-talk/id1797423701

On Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0qJVgTvjciUffRmoUienx2

How to find Nicole https://nicolefonarow.com/

How to find Jolene https://dibledough.com/

According to a study performed by the Commonwealth Fund, Americans are sicker than ever while spending more on healthcare than any other country.

Let that fact sink in for a moment. For a developed nation, we expect so much better for our country and we desperately want to see change.

So why are Americans spending so much on healthcare, and still getting sicker? it seems that the answer isn't in your medicine cabinet - it's in your pantry. We’re taking a look into the dirty alliance between Big Food, Big Pharma, and the politicians who enable them. From high fructose corn syrup in everything to SNAP benefits funding junk food addiction, we're exploring the system that's literally killing us for profit.

Every dollar you spend is a vote for the kind of food system you want. Every conversation you have about this topic chips away at the lies we've been told. Every time you choose real food over processed garbage, you're fighting back against a system designed to exploit your health for profit.

The food industry is counting on your ignorance and your convenience addiction. They're betting you won't read labels, won't ask questions, won't connect the dots between what you eat and how you feel. Prove them wrong.

CHAPTER MARKERS:

00:00 Introduction to Big Food and Pharma

01:08 Dr. Mark Hyman and the Ozempic Episode

01:47 The Marriage of Pharma, Food, and Tobacco

10:56 The SNAP Program and Food Subsidies

17:58 Personal Health Journey and Functional Medicine

21:25 The Role of Lobbying in Healthcare

23:03 Regenerative Farming and Food Education

31:48 The Role of Genetically Modified Seeds in Agriculture

32:29 Health Impacts of Modern Agriculture

34:41 Functional Medicine and Health Awareness

35:31 Political Perspectives on Health Regulations

36:58 Collaborative Efforts for Healthier Living

41:18 The Importance of Functional Health Practitioners

43:10 Good for the Soul: Swearing and Documentaries

RESOURCES MENTIONED:

Tucker Carlson show:

https://youtu.be/mUH4Co2wE-I?si=7z163wWy8t8lqxpO

Realfoodology: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/realfoodology/id1529008803?i=1000689022149

Joe Rogan: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-joe-rogan-experience/id360084272?i=1000672259

309 Megyn Kelly Show: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ending-chronic-disease-forces-fighting-rfk-and-maha/id1532976305?i=1000702748981

Time Magazine Article:

https://time.com/7272667/swearing-curse-words-health-benefits/

The Biggest LIttle Farm Trailer:

https://youtu.be/UfDTM4JxHl8?si=hIRHHyQdAl4RKz4u

IG Conflictish:

Two massive events dominated the weekend: the Army's 250th anniversary parade and the No Kings March. One celebrated military might with millions in taxpayer dollars, the other protested government overreach with signs and chants. Both claimed to represent "real America." So which one actually does? We’re digging into the messy reality of modern patriotism and ask the uncomfortable question: Can you love your country while hating your government?

Maybe the real issue isn't whether parades or protests are more patriotic. Maybe it's that we've forgotten how to disagree without demonizing. The Army parade and No Kings March both happened in the same country, on the same weekend, representing the same people's different visions of American greatness.

That's not division - that's democracy. Messy, expensive, sometimes chaotic democracy where military pageantry and anti-government protests can coexist because freedom means having space for both.

CHAPTER MARKERS:

00:00 Introduction: Unlikely Friends

00:23 Discussing the Army Parade

01:56 Trump's Influence and Media Coverage

07:09 No Kings March and Public Protests

14:36 Sponsorship and Commercialization of Events

19:08 Debating the Effectiveness of Protests

27:28 Good News and Lighthearted Questions

34:48 Conclusion

RESOURCES MENTIONED:

• https://www.military.com/daily-news/2025/06/16/army-parade-was-marked-quiet-crowds-trump-linked-sponsors-soldiers-kept-politics-bay.html
• Chris Cuomo NewsNation: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKx_CVWRJ5_/?igsh=bmhlc2RuZHFtbGZ6
• News Nation
• https://www.allsides.com/news-source/newsnation-media-bias
• https://www.chirla.org/
• The National News:
• https://www.allsides.com/news-source/national-desk-media-bias
• NBC News with Tom Llamas:
• https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news

LINKS:

On Instagram https://www.instagram.com/wevegottotalk/

On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WeveGotToTalk

How to find Nicole https://nicolefonarow.com/

How to find Jolene https://dibledough.com/