‘Weirdos Who Care About Books’ with Christina Baker Kline & Anne Burt

This week, we hang out with two brilliant weirdos who absolutely live for story: Christina Baker Kline and Anne Burt. Their new novel, Please Don’t Lie, is our jumping-off point for a candid, generous, energizing conversation. We go inside their creative friendship, from late-night draft swaps to “trust falls” that make the writing braver. They discuss building a novel with joy and discipline, explore what immersive writing retreats entail, and examine how themes of grief and trauma shape the emotional spine of their work. We also get into the pull of self-help culture, the true-crime lens on modern narratives, and how to balance page-turning momentum with literary heart. If you love books, collaboration, and the messy magic of making art with your people, this one is a delight.