Episodios

  • Strange People on the Hill feat. Michael Edison Hayden
    Apr 3 2026

    Molly interviews Michael Edison Hayden about his new book, Strange People on the Hill: How Extremism Tore Apart a Small Town. The book is an intimate portrait of what happened in Berkeley Springs, West Virginia after a white nationalist group moved into the castle on the hill.
    Preorder the book now or buy it anywhere books are sold when it comes out on April 7, 2026

    https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/michael-edison-hayden/strange-people-on-the-hill/9781645030607/

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    57 m
  • The Ugliest Confederate Statue in the World: Jack Kershaw, Pt. 1
    Apr 2 2026

    Jack Kershaw created his most famous piece of art in his 80s. His lifelong passion for the arts had to take a backseat when he shifted his focus to becoming a professional racist during the fight against integration. He was doing it for his confederate ancestors, he would often say. But he was never very specific about who exactly his ancestors were...

    The It Could Happen Here episode mentioned, originally aired 2/22/2024 -
    https://open.spotify.com/episode/1ZQAqsxImsNGQUTzHGKhNp

    Sources:

    https://thesewaneepurple.org/2021/03/23/polk-sculpture-donated-by-white-supremacist-jack-kershaw/

    https://thesewaneepurple.org/2021/03/22/polk-sculpture-removed-by-student-taken-to-archives/

    https://meridiana.sewanee.edu/2022/04/30/a-year-later-a-letter-of-explanation/

    https://www.moca.org/collection/work/unmanned-drone

    https://religiondispatches.org/2025/10/28/swords-plowshares

    https://www.sipcville.com/

    https://www.vpm.org/news/2026-03-23/swords-into-plowshares-cville-jefferson-school-designs-hood-push-mass

    https://www.vpm.org/news/2024-05-23/swords-into-plowshares-robert-e-lee-statue-charlottesville-centennial

    https://www.npr.org/2021/02/23/970610428/nearly-100-confederate-monuments-removed-in-2020-report-says-more-than-700-remai

    https://segregationinamerica.eji.org/report/confederate-icongraphy.html

    https://wpln.org/post/even-as-statue-forrest-still-draws-fire/

    https://www.upi.com/Archives/1982/03/30/Ray-says-lawyer-hid-Playboy-fee/1722386312400/

    The Late Show With Stephen Colbert, August 2017
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvCjM1lPwg4

    Last Week Tonight With John Oliver, October 2017
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5b_-TZwQ0I

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    38 m
  • Minisode: The Real Earl Turner
    Apr 1 2026

    Before we leave the novels of William Luther Pierce behind us, let's take a quick look at the real Earl Turner. The protagonist of The Turner Diaries was, like all of Pierce's characters, named after a real guy he knew.

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    10 m
  • The Nazi's Mary Sue: Hunter, Pt. 2
    Mar 26 2026

    At the end of this exploration of nazi serial killer Joseph Paul Franklin and the novel loosely based on his crimes, the question remains: did any of his friends in the white power movement know what he was going to do before he did it? What clues does the novel hold?

    Sources:
    Pierce, Kelvin. Sins of My Father, Growing Up with America's Most Dangerous White Supremacist. Independently Published, 2020

    Griffin, R. S. (2001). The Fame of a Dead Man’s Deeds. 1st Books Library.

    Mel Ayton, Dark Soul of the South: The Life and Crimes of Racist Killer Joseph Paul Franklin, Potomac Press, Inc., 2011

    Sunshine, Spencer (2024). Neo-Nazi Terrorism and Countercultural Fascism: The Origins and Afterlife of James Mason’s Siege (1st ed.). New York, NY: Routledge

    Bill Simmons, "Defendants All Acquitted In Sedition Trial," AP News, April 8, 1988

    https://www.kcur.org/news/2024-04-12/overland-park-antisemitic-murders-jewish-community-center-shooting-survivors

    https://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/article2595772.html

    http://www.kansas.com/2014/04/15/3406670/records-suggest-federal-authorities.html

    https://momentsthatsurvive.org/tribute/pierce-hastings/

    https://www.wunc.org/2014-04-15/an-idiot-with-a-gun-leaves-families-in-kansas-reeling

    https://www.kmbc.com/article/shooting-victim-remembered-for-upbeat-attitude-work-with-kids/3681879

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    56 m
  • The Nazi's Mary Sue: Hunter, Pt. 1
    Mar 19 2026

    A closer look at the second novel by the man who wrote The Turner Diaries reveals that it isn't just about serial killer Joseph Paul Franklin... it's the author's fantasy about the man he wishes he could have been.

    Sources:

    Pierce, Kelvin. Sins of My Father, Growing Up with America's Most Dangerous White Supremacist. Independently Published, 2020

    Thomas Martinez, Brotherhood of Murder: The Shocking Inside Story of The Order. McGraw Hill, 1988

    Griffin, R. S. (2001). The Fame of a Dead Man’s Deeds. 1st Books Library.

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    53 m
  • One Man Race War: Joseph Paul Franklin, Pt. 6
    Mar 12 2026

    As we approach the end of the series on nazi serial killer Joseph Paul Franklin, the rest of the timeline is filled in. Shortly after murdering two young men in Utah, Franklin was arrested at a motel in Kentucky after calling to complain that a police car had him double parked.

    Sources:

    Mel Ayton, Dark Soul of the South: The Life and Crimes of Racist Killer Joseph Paul Franklin, Potomac Press, Inc., 2011

    Ralph Echols, Life Without Mercy: Jake Beard, Joseph Paul Franklin and the Rainbow Murders,

    Sunshine, Spencer (2024). Neo-Nazi Terrorism and Countercultural Fascism: The Origins and Afterlife of James Mason’s Siege (1st ed.). New York, NY: Routledge

    Flynn, Kevin, and Gary Gerhardt. The Silent Brotherhood: Inside America's Racist Underground Free Press ; Collier Macmillan, 1989.

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    47 m
  • Raymond Turner
    Mar 5 2026

    Just about every source of information about nazi serial killer Joseph Paul Franklin gets the name of one of his victims wrong. In my search for information about the man who was murdered in Falls Church, Virginia in August of 1979, I came up mostly empty. We've erased a man from the story of his own murder because it's easier to tell a story about a racist than it is to talk about racism.

    Sources:

    Mel Ayton, Dark Soul of the South: The Life and Crimes of Racist Killer Joseph Paul Franklin, Potomac Press, Inc., 2011

    Moon, V. The middleburg mystique: A peek inside the gates of Middleburg, Virginia. Waverley Lee Media, LLC. 2016

    Matthew Exline, We Have Been Waiting Too Long: The Struggle Against Racial Segregation in Loudoun County, Virginia. Have History Will Travel Press, 2020.

    Carole Townsend, Blood in the Soil. Skyhorse, 2016

    Douglas, John E., Ann W. Burgess, et al. Crime Classification Manual: A Standard System for Investigating and Classifying Violent Crimes. John Wiley and Sons, 2006.

    The Study of the Operation of Segregated Schools in Loudoun County, Virginia conducted by Teachers in the Movement Oral History Project Research Team University of Virginia School of Education and Human Development
    https://www.loudoun.gov/DocumentCenter/View/214704/The-Study-of-the-Operation-of-Segregated-Schools-in-Loudoun-County-Virginia_FINAL

    https://www.courts.wa.gov/newsinfo/index.cfm?fa=newsinfo.displayContent&theFile=content/deathPenalty/trial


    https://www.aclunorcal.org/app/uploads/2010/03/costs_of_death_penalty_trials.pdf

    https://fds.duke.edu/db?attachment-34--1667-view-301

    https://www.dhr.virginia.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/259-0162-0007_ShilohBaptistChurch_2017_NRHP_FINAL.pdf

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1990/04/26/middleburg/74b1854a-dca2-4b45-8bc5-7999ab4e015c/

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/12/05/loudoun-county-segregated-schools-reparations/

    http://www.virginiaplaces.org/government/constitution1902.html
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1979/08/21/turner-raymond-elton/4ae0ab2f-ef82-477d-a8f8-39ababc4c72c/

    https://edwinwashingtonproject.org/files/original/62047/1014789_EWP_2-5A_Yr_1930_CountyWide_on_Gibbons_Lot.pdf

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  • One Man Race War: Joseph Paul Franklin, Pt. 5
    Feb 26 2026
    After Joseph Paul Franklin was arrested in 1980, prosecutors all over the country were waiting their turn to try him for murder. After a federal prosecutor failed to convince a jury that shooting a man just for being black was a civil rights violation, they lost their confidence. But Joseph Paul Franklin was desperate to get out of the federal prison where he was serving his first few life sentences. Sources:Mel Ayton, Dark Soul of the South: The Life and Crimes of Racist Killer Joseph Paul Franklin, Potomac Press, Inc., 2011Thomas Martinez, Brotherhood of Murder: The Shocking Inside Story of The Order. McGraw Hill, 1988Jessica Mitford, Kind and Usual Punishment: The Prison Business, New York, Vintage Books, 1973Devins, Neal, "Reagan Redux: Civil Rights Under Bush" (1993). Faculty Publications. 429.https://scholarship.law.wm.edu/facpubs/429https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1985/06/28/reynolds-nomination-voted-down/115c0520-c848-4c17-a302-209a9a9d5a4a/ https://www.nytimes.com/1985/06/28/us/senate-committee-rejects-reynolds-for-justice-post.html https://www.nytimes.com/1987/02/07/us/us-rights-official-discounts-tension.html https://virginiamercury.com/2019/04/22/can-a-local-prosecutor-decide-to-just-stop-prosecuting-marijuana-cases-the-va-supreme-court-will-decide/ https://www.hcpros.org/case-vault-1 https://www.nytimes.com/1986/02/09/us/slayer-faces-trial-in-2-apparently-racial-killings.html https://ballotpedia.org/United_States_v._Lanza https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution-conan/amendment-5/dual-sovereignty-doctrine https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/7299259/united-states-v-fields/ https://www.washingtonian.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Utah-AG-Report.pdf https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4403054/mitchell-v-roberts/ https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1987-08-02-mn-747-story.html https://people.umass.edu/~kastor/ceml_articles/cu_in_us.html https://freedomarchives.org/Documents/Finder/DOC3_scans/3.journal.prisons.prisoners.griffin.1993.pdf https://concrim.asc41.com/wp-content/uploads/j32.pdf https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1980/10/23/murders-of-blacks-baffle-us-officials/f8eefeac-1ca3-48de-85a0-4b9db645b01e/ https://www.nytimes.com/1982/02/24/us/study-accuses-justice-dept-of-waging-attack-on-civil-rights-laws.html https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2013/10/marion-prison-lockdown-thomas-silverstein-how-a-1983-murder-created-america-s-terrible-supermax-prison-culture.htmlSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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