Weighing In On The US-SA Refugee Programme with Andrea Shea - E26

In May 2025, the US welcomed its first batch of white Afrikaans South Africans as part of its divisive Refugee Admissions Program.

Some people are saying that they will be back, while others don’t even think they should have been accepted in the first place - it’s been dominating the headlines for months and today’s guest has become somewhat of a voice for the programme’s participants.

Andrea Shea is a wife, mother, and passionate activist for South Africans living in the United States. Andrea shares her journey of relocating from South Africa after her family won the diversity visa lottery, after many years of trying. We talk about everything from settling in Florida, cultural adjustments, and raising a family in a new country, to her activism in support of South Africans seeking a "safer and brighter future".

My discussion with Andrea was a truly eye-opening experience. Her honesty about the challenges of leaving South Africa, the realities of moving to the US, and her tireless work supporting others really struck a chord with me. I left our conversation feeling inspired by her resilience and her unwavering commitment to help fellow South Africans navigate these uncertain paths.

If you’re considering relocation, wanting to know more about the refugee programme to the US, or simply curious about what life is like after such a big move, this episode has plenty of insights and practical advice you won’t want to miss.

“I think people have it in their head that [if] you're a refugee, there's kind of like a stigma behind it. But no one I've known that has gone over on the programme has been stigmatised.” - Andrea Shea

00:00 Introduction

07:18 Visiting South Africa

12:19 US-SA relations

14:50 South African politics and the race debate

18:22 Is change imminent?

19:35 Addressing poverty

23:56 Chaotic start to refugee programme

27:20 Relocating for children’s future

31:37 Work visa vs. refugee programme

32:32 Misconceptions about being a US citizen

38:35 Embracing local culture abroad

Resources

• Contact Andrea via email: [e-mail]
• Follow her on X: https://x.com/andrea_spook

Find your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at [e-mail]

This podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:

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