Dustin and Adam dive into one of the most fundamental principles of successful investing: “you make your money when you buy.” Using real examples from recent apartment building acquisitions and fix-and-flip projects, they discuss why the purchase price is often the biggest lever in determining investment success.

They break down how overpaying upfront makes it nearly impossible to “earn your way out” of a deal (even with significant value-add improvements), and share insights on evaluating acquisition prices in today’s market, including why sponsors claiming a “20% discount to 2022 prices” might not actually be getting a good deal.

For passive investors, this episode provides crucial guidance on evaluating sponsor deal packages, understanding true market value versus pro forma projections, and recognizing when brokers price properties based on incomplete value-add work. Understanding acquisition pricing relative to exit strategy is essential for building wealth through passive income investments.

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Connect with Dustin:

• Big Spring Capital
• LinkedIn (/in/TheDustinBailey)
• Twitter/X (@TheDustinBailey)

Connect with Adam:

• Bidwell Capital
• LinkedIn (/in/AdamJPenn)

This show is for informational purposes only and is not financial, investment, legal, or tax advice, and does not constitute an offer to buy or sell securities. All investments carry risk, and investors should always conduct thorough due diligence and consult with qualified professionals before investing.

Dustin and Adam chat with Vessi Kapoulian, an experienced real estate investor with a unique background in commercial lending. Vessi shares her journey from growing up behind the Iron Curtain in Bulgaria to corporate America, where witnessing multiple restructures and income limitations sparked her transition to real estate investing.

Drawing on her CRE lending experience reviewing hundreds of deals and investor financial statements, Vessi reveals what successful real estate investors do differently. She shares her critical due diligence framework for evaluating multifamily deals, including her 100-point checklist for vetting sponsors and properties.

Vessi shares why she prioritizes cash flow over equity appreciation, her preferred loan-to-value ratios for risk management, and the red flags that make her immediately pass on deals. She also discusses critical factors like operating reserves, positive leverage, and breakeven occupancy rates that passive investors should evaluate, but often overlook.

Whether you're new to passive investing or looking to refine your due diligence process, this episode provides actionable frameworks for evaluating multifamily investment opportunities from someone who's seen both sides of the lending table.

Episode Release Notes & Resources:

• Mastering Multifamily Underwriting: https://masteringmultifamilyunderwriting.com
• DBA Capital Group – passive investing insights & investment opportunities: https://dbacapitalgroup.com
• Connect with Vessi on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vessi-kapoulian

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Connect with Dustin:

• Big Spring Capital
• LinkedIn (/in/TheDustinBailey)
• Twitter/X (@TheDustinBailey)

Connect with Adam:

• Bidwell Capital
• LinkedIn (/in/AdamJPenn)

This show is for informational purposes only and is not financial, investment, legal, or tax advice, and does not constitute an offer to buy or sell securities. All investments carry risk, and investors should always conduct thorough due diligence and consult with qualified professionals before investing.

Dustin and Adam explore a critical concept that many real estate investors overlook: analyzing an asset’s return on equity.

While most investors focus solely on monthly cash flow, evaluating whether your equity is working as hard as it should be is an important part of portfolio management. Using practical examples, Adam and Dustin break down the difference between cash-on-cash returns and return on equity, showing how appreciation creates opportunities for strategic portfolio rebalancing.

The conversation covers when it makes sense to be an opportunistic seller, even with cash-flowing properties, and how to identify when your equity could be generating significantly higher returns elsewhere.

Additionally, Adam shares insights from a recent self-directed IRA conference and introduces tools for tracking portfolio performance, including personal financial statement templates that help visualize return on equity across different asset classes.

Essential listening for passive investors who have built equity in their real estate holdings and want to move beyond monthly cash flow metrics to optimize their overall investment strategy.

Episode Release Notes & Resources:

• Personal Financial Statement (PFS) Template - Optimized for Syndications / Private Placement Investments: send an email to pfs@wealthindependencepod.com

See all Wealth Independence episodes at https://wealthindependencepod.com

Connect with Dustin:

• Big Spring Capital
• LinkedIn (/in/TheDustinBailey)
• Twitter/X (@TheDustinBailey)

Connect with Adam:

• Bidwell Capital
• LinkedIn (/in/AdamJPenn)

This show is for informational purposes only and is not financial, investment, legal, or tax advice, and does not constitute an offer to buy or sell securities. All investments carry risk, and investors should always conduct thorough due diligence and consult with qualified professionals before investing.