‘We Went Up on the Roof’

Sarah Matusek didn’t wake up one recent morning expecting that her day would include driving a getaway car. Reporting can be like that. In this episode, Monitor immigration writer Sarah Matusek talks with host Clay Collins about the logistics of getting access to – and egress from – places including a Portland ICE facility, about the nuance of the legal language around her beat, and about how she approaches reporting fairly on what might be the most divisive set of dueling narratives in modern U.S. discourse.