We Don’t Speak the Same Language, But We Mean the Same Thing: A Conversation on Science and Spirit (w/guest Carrie Elvey)

What happens when a Naturalist and a Spiritual Director sit down to talk about wonder, language, and the nature of knowing?

This episode is a playful and sincere conversation about what it means to pay attention—whether through scientific observation or spiritual practice—and how awe might be the bridge between worlds. We talk about the ways science and spirit overlap, how intuition and skepticism can live in the same body, and why smelling the roses is not just a cliché but a legitimate act of spiritual formation.

There’s a slight pop on the mic line now and then—apologies for that. But the spirit of this episode felt too alive not to share.

Meet Carrie Elvey:

Carrie is a naturalist, blacksmith, and Creator of Darwin’s Dream, where she shares her love of natural history and art.

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Carrie’s work: darwins-dream.com

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