In this powerful and emotional episode, Ron Cantor—Messianic leader and former friend of Dr. Michael Brown—shares the story of how two decades of friendship came to a breaking point in 2024. After learning about serious allegations involving Sarah Monk and Kim, Ron became an outspoken advocate for victims of clergy sexual abuse, even as it meant confronting one of his closest ministry allies.

Ron opens up about the personal toll, the weight of truth, and why silence is no longer an option. This conversation pulls no punches—and it’s one you won’t want to miss.

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In this raw and revealing interview, we sit down with Jesse Westwood—a former Bethel Redding insider and charismatic for over 20 years—who walked away from it all and became an atheist… only to later return to Christ through the quiet strength of Scripture, doctrine, and deep soul work.

Jesse opens up about:

-What it was like being fully immersed in the Bethel world
-The unraveling of his charismatic beliefs
-How doubt led him to atheism—and how truth brought him back
-Why he now finds a home in a this christian tradition
-His heart for others who are disillusioned, burned out, or confused by modern charismatic culture

If you’ve ever wrestled with your faith, questioned the hype, or longed for something more grounded—this conversation is for you.

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In this powerful episode, we sit down with Steven Kozar of The Messed Up Church to hear his journey out of the charismatic movement. Steven opens up about how years of witnessing prophetic abuse, manipulation, and spiritual deception caused him to question what he once believed. But it wasn’t just the bad experiences—it was his deep dive into church history and sound theology that ultimately reshaped his faith.

We discuss the dangers of false prophecy, the emotional grip of charismatic culture, and the liberating clarity that comes from solid doctrine and historic Christianity. Whether you’re deconstructing toxic church experiences or simply hungry for truth, this conversation will challenge and encourage you.

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