This week, Aneta and Isaac speak with Dr. Karim Dajani and Dr. Eyal Rozmarin, who began a correspondence through ROOM as Palestinian and Israeli analysts striving to comprehend Israel and Palestine and one another. Together, Dajani and Rozmarin have carried their difficult and vital conversation through the pages of ROOM, into a video, "Speaking of Home: An Intimate Exchange on Israel-Palestine," and a forthcoming book. In their conversation with Isaac and Aneta, they unpack how they have been both supported and attacked merely for talking to one another. From a social experiment to a series of letters to an intimate piece of humanity and identity, this exchange holds the vulnerability and electricity needed to know and confront our current world.

"Are we going to live in Heaven or Hell? The people of historic Palestine, all of them, must sit at one table and learn to feed each other, look out for each other, and protect each other. Otherwise, we will all starve in one way or another." — Karim Dajani, "Learning From All Things" ROOM 6.24

"You and I are holding each other for dear life. We want to be free of this vile situation, and in some ways we are. But if we actually want to make a difference, we need to understand where we too, both of us, are still unconscious of what drives the broken, agitated, and desperate collectives we find ourselves representing in this conversation." — Eyal Rozmarin, "Learning From All Things" ROOM 6.24

This week, Aneta and Isaac speak with Alexandra Woods, whose work operates at the intersections of the clinical, the personal, and the natural. As an analyst and a writer, Woods derives solace and inspiration from nature and activism. She explores the tension between how we connect and disconnect from the world around us, both environmentally and politically. Negotiating joy and obligation, Woods details how critical rest can galvanize future direct action and connection.

"We allow the future to come at us in tiny doses. Do we want to follow the news? Can we hold on to our internal compasses? Will they spin out of control? Is it even possible to set a course?"

— Alexandra Woods, "Winter Into Spring," ROOM 6.25

This week, Aneta and Isaac speak with Dr. Anastasios Gaitanidis, a relational psychoanalyst based in London, whose work focuses on the intersection of psychological and political dimensions of cultural and environmental crisis. Relating to the work of Sue Grand and Josh Cohen, Gaitanidis shows where our hatred for the abuse of our climate, and our complicity in that abuse, stems from a love for our world, each other, and our potential environmental future. Far from being a dead-end, Gaitanidis outlines where and how hatred might galvanize us to take agency in our climate crisis, together.

"This collective holding of hatred points toward what a psychopolitical praxis might look like. It’s not about managing or suppressing these difficult emotions but about creating containers strong enough to hold them while they transform." — Anastasios Gaitanidis, "On Hatred," ROOM 2.25