Exploring the tensions between ideology and reality, or ‘indestructible maps’ and participation in mystery and incompleteness, welcoming the philosopher, Voicecraft Network contributor and author of The Map is Indestructible, O.G. Rose in the form of Daniel Garner, in dialogue with Tim Adalin. This conversation continues the Cultural Shamanism series.

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Find 'The Map Is Indestructible' here: https://www.amazon.com/Map-Indestructible-Problems-Internally-Consistent/dp/1736507591/

Listen to Daniel speak with Cadell Last in a conversation titled 'The Map Is Indestructible' @ https://youtu.be/UOFPEIyj8Sc

Chapters

00:00:00 Introduction

00:01:00 Defining Global Pluralism

00:08:30 Givens vs Maps: The Shift in How We Navigate Reality

00:11:16 The Map is Indestructible: Consistency, Correspondence and Truth

00:36:12 Address vs Explanation: Opening to the Gödel Point

00:53:23 Universal Points of Connection Across Different Maps

01:24:29 Cultural Shamanism and the Necessity of Gödel Points

01:39:14 Practical Challenges: Authority, Intimacy, and Trust

01:55:36 From Desire to Drive: Sustaining Presence in the Gödel Point

02:11:52 Informal Conviviality and the Future of Belonging

Listen to the full intro song by Cantrips titled 'The Big Break' @ https://youtu.be/Qaj-stBL4W0

An exploration of AI, human intelligence, dangers of cognitive atrophy, and lines of flight in response to teritorialisation. Welcoming the creator of the Cynefin Framework and iconoclastic generalist thinker Dave Snowden, who argues that AI represents artificial or algorithmic inference rather than true intelligence. He joins Tim Adalin for a dialogue that also broaches metacrisis vs polycrisis, religion and identity, economic and political systems, warfare and complexity.

Dave's previous conversation on Voicecraft "Civilisation, Science & Spirituality" https://youtu.be/uXvWQzGcNCo

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Timestamps

00:00 Intro

00:15 The Nature of Intelligence

08:05 Artificial Inference vs. Artificial Intelligence

12:50 Extended Consciousness & Embodied Intelligence

24:40 Education, Measurement & Cultural Atrophy

31:48 Warfare, Complexity & Game Theory

47:35 Religion, Identity & Collective Meaning

57:10 Economic Systems & Gifting Cultures

01:14:35 Technology, Design & Emergence

01:25:39 Boundaries, Safety & System Design

01:39:35 Power, Manipulation & Lines of Flight

Learn more about Dave and Cynefin @ https://thecynefin.co/team/dave-snowden/

Listen to the full intro song by Cantrips titled 'The Big Break' @ https://youtu.be/Qaj-stBL4W0

Philosopher Cadell Last joins Tim Adalin for a dialogue working with core themes from Last's new book: 'Real Speculations: Thought Foundations, Drive Myths, and Social Analysis.

This is a comprehensive journey into core philosophy and psychoanalysis, intended for a network of networks engaging in common effort to understand and participate in the becoming of our time.

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Find Cadell's Philosophy Portal @ https://philosophyportal.online/Real Speculations @ https://www.amazon.com/Real-Speculations-Thought-Foundations-Analysis/dp/B0F5NV3821

Cadell's conversation with @O.G.Rose.Michelle.and.Daniel @ https://youtu.be/Q92oh-iXvqI?si=hdHEEOtWKAllXO1k

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Listen to the full intro song by Cantrips titled 'The Big Break' @ https://youtu.be/Qaj-stBL4W0