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Welcome to Underworlds with Mark Shaw. Organized Crime is everywhere, hidden in plain sight. The stories from this world have been mythologised by Hollywood. But the reality can be even stranger and more exciting than fiction. From the golden age of the American mafia (La Cosa Nostra), to the modern-day cocaine empires, and from the shadowy links between organized crime and terrorism, to the twilight of the Yakuza. In this series Mark Shaw, the Director of the Global Initiative Against Transnational Organized Crime delves into non-fiction books about organized crime and the illicit economy with the authors themselves. He asks questions about their background and investigations, but also the challenges associated in writing about this murky world.Copyright 2025 Global Initiative Against Transnational Organized Crime Arte Crímenes Reales Historia y Crítica Literaria Mundial
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  • SANNE DE BOER - Mafiopoli: Living Among the ’Ndrangheta – Italy's Most Powerful Crime Organisation
    Jul 9 2025

    Mafiopoli: Uncovering the ’Ndrangheta, Italy’s Most Powerful Mafia.

    In this episode of Underworlds, host Mark interviews Dutch journalist and author Sanne De Boer about her book, Mafiopoli: Living Among the ’Ndrangheta – Italy’s Most Powerful Crime Organisation. Based in Calabria, home to the rugged Aspromonte Mountains, De Boer reveals the ’Ndrangheta’s rise as Europe’s cocaine trade kingpin, with growing influence in the Netherlands, Belgium, and Germany.

    Mafiopoli exposes the mafia’s grip on business, politics, and even the Catholic Church, spotlighting the 2007 Duisburg killings that highlighted their violent reach. De Boer discusses Europe’s struggle to counter the ’Ndrangheta, alongside Calabria’s youth-led resistance. She also shares Pope Francis’s bold 2014 condemnation of the mafia as “evil” during his Calabria visit, effectively excommunicating them.

    Learn about De Boer’s investigative process, diving into Italian court documents while navigating personal safety risks.

    Listen now to explore the ’Ndrangheta’s power and Calabria’s fightback!

    Timecodes:

    0:00 - Intro

    01:53 - What does "Mafiopoli" mean?

    03:24 - Encountering the 'Ndrangheta in Calabria

    06:00 - The Duisburg Massacre in Germany

    09:25 - Quiet growth of the 'Ndrangheta

    11:53 - Background to the Duisburg Massacre

    14:54 - 'Ndrangheta investments in the Netherlands and Germany

    17:03 - European countries unprepared to deal with 'Ndrangheta

    21:03 - Talking to Dutch Law Enforcement

    23:01 - Petra Reski

    25:13 - Infiltration of politics

    28:54 - 'Ndrangheta excommunicated by Pope Francis

    31:05 - Calabrian resilience to the mafia

    33:56 - Threats and Security

    36:26 - Writing Mafiopoli

    42:09 - Pessimistic or optimistic about the growth of the mafia

    43:57 - Next Book & Outro

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    Sanne de Boer's book Mafiopoli: Living Among the ’Ndrangheta – Italy's Most Powerful Crime Organisation is available here.

    Audible version.

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    45 m
  • GEOFF WHITE: Rinsed: How the Tech Industry Washes Money for the World's Deadliest Crooks
    Jul 2 2025

    Rinsed: How Tech Fuels Money Laundering for Cartels and Cybercriminals

    In this episode of Underworlds, host Mark interviews journalist and author Geoff White about his book, Rinsed: From Cartels to Crypto: How the Tech Industry Washes Money for the World's Deadliest Crooks. Discover how cybercriminals exploit platforms like Axie Infinity, Call of Duty, Backpage, and Tornado Cash to launder illicit funds.

    White delves into notorious figures like Nigerian influencer Hushpuppi, whose lavish lifestyle collapsed after laundering millions for North Korea’s Lazarus Group, infamous for massive heists like the Bangladesh Bank cyberattack, Axie Infinity hack, and the $1.5 billion Bybit Ethereum heist. With years of expertise in cyber and financial crime, White exposes the tech industry’s blind spots in tackling money laundering.

    Tune in to explore Rinsed, the Lazarus Group’s global schemes, and the challenges of investigating cybercrime.

    Timecodes:

    0:00 - Intro

    01:46 - Background to Geoff's book Rinsed

    03:01 - The Intersection of Technology and Money Laundering

    05:56 - General Blindness in Tech Industry

    08:32 - Tornado Cash, Axie Infinity and North Korean Hackers

    12:55 - Backpage, CSAM, Money Laundering

    17:25 - Response to the Book from Tech World

    19:00 - Resilience of Cryptocurrency & Pro-Crypto US Administration

    22:54 - Lack of Ability to Control Illicit Finance

    26:18 - The Evolving Threat of North Korean Cybercrime

    30:01 - Hushpuppi: Social Media Influencer by Day, Money Launderer by Night

    33:33 - The Challenges of Crypto Traceability

    37:38 - Challenges of Writing on Money Laundering

    40:58 - Characters that Left a Lasting Impact

    43:19 - Discovering the Story

    46:03 - What's Next?

    49:44 - Why Books like Rinsed are still needed

    52:11 - Importance of Security

    54:11 - Upcoming Projects

    54:53 - Outro

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    Geoff White's book ‘Rinsed: From Cartels to Crypto: How the Tech Industry Washes Money for the World's Deadliest Crooks’ is available here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rinsed-Cartels-Crypto-Industry-Deadliest/dp/0241624835

    Audible version: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rinsed-Cartels-Crypto-Industry-Deadliest/dp/B0CWJMSTYG/ref=tmm_aud_swatch_0

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    🎧WHY NOT TRY OUR OTHER PODCASTS:

    🎧Deep Dive: Exploring Organized Crime - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXSX1Xu1kM0spSX0QUq7j0NmIZOqyDTZQ

    🎧The Index - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXSX1Xu1kM0uc_4CftGl8PrwHA3IK5WeI

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    55 m
  • CARYN DOLLEY: Man Alone: Mandela’s top cop – exposing South Africa’s ceaseless sabotage
    Jun 24 2025

    Man Alone: Mandela’s top cop – exposing South Africa’s ceaseless sabotage

    In this episode Mark sits down with journalist Caryn Dolley to discuss her latest book, ‘Man Alone: Mandela’s top cop – exposing South Africa’s ceaseless sabotage’.

    Man Alone follows the career of a remarkable South African police officer called André Lincoln, who passed away in May 2025. He was handpicked during the 1990s by Nelson Mandela, to head a secret unit investigating connections between government officials and organized crime in South Africa. He started with Cosa Nostra, the mafia from Sicily.

    His long career was marked by controversy, in 2003, Lincoln was convicted of fraud and sacked by the South African Police Service (SAPS), only for the decision to be overturned a few years later after a successful challenge. He always insisted that people within the state, including fellow officers, targeted him in an attempt to scupper his investigations.

    Lincoln dedicated 39 years to law enforcement, eventually heading the Western Cape Anti-Gang Unit, a unit dedicated to combatting gangsterism in the area. He was accused of not doing enough to prevent the murder of his colleague Charl Kinnear, who was gunned down in 2020, although he vehemently denied this.

    In May 2025, Major-General André Lincoln passed away, after years of health problems that left him in a wheelchair.

    Caryn talks about Lincoln’s life but she also speaks candidly about her life as a journalist covering the crime beat in the Western Cape.

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    Caryn Dolley's book ‘Man Alone: Mandela’s top cop – exposing South Africa’s ceaseless sabotage’ is available here: https://www.amazon.com/Man-Alone-Mandelas-exposing-ceaseless-ebook/dp/B0DPZL8ZB1

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    Underworlds with Mark Shaw Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXSX1Xu1kM0ss7EEqXOflp3d-lZw4LfIe

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    📱 YouTube Channel - https://www.youtube.com/@UCP-lqJdhM-9iDKkswuVcXZA

    🌎 VISIT US! Global Initiative Against Transnational Organized Crime - https://globalinitiative.net/

    🎧Audio version: https://link.chtbl.com/7c27X1CM

    🎧WHY NOT TRY OUR OTHER PODCASTS:

    🎧Deep Dive: Exploring Organized Crime - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXSX1Xu1kM0spSX0QUq7j0NmIZOqyDTZQ

    🎧The Index - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXSX1Xu1kM0uc_4CftGl8PrwHA3IK5WeI

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    59 m
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