Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom Podcast Episode Fourty One with Jodie Hill.

In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, I sit down with Jodie Hill, founder of Thrive Law in the UK, a law firm built around employment law, culture, mental health, and neurodiversity. Jodie is reimagining what legal leadership can look like by working on the front end of workplace problems helping organizations prevent discrimination and burnout instead of only reacting once things have gone wrong.

Jodie and I talk about why saying yes to everything can quietly pull you away from your purpose, how scaling too fast can be just as dangerous as not growing at all, and why the optics of success don’t always reflect what’s actually healthy or sustainable inside a business.

We explore what it really means to build boundaries as a founder, how burnout reshapes leadership, and why creating space away from work can unlock better ideas than constant hustle ever will.

We also dive into:
- Why growth without intention can become a trap
- How leaders can model psychological safety instead of just talking about it
- What delegation really means when done well
- Why vulnerability isn’t weakness it’s leadership
- How imposter syndrome shows up even after success
- What it takes to build a culture where people can truly thrive

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