In this second part of this interview, the guys drill down on the topic of record keeping and world record claims in the muskie world. Larry lends the fiery and passionate opinions that he has become well known for regarding this part of muskie fishing. No punches pulled by either man in this one! Points of discussion include:

• World record fish protocols
• Canada / USA World Record claims
• Record keeping formulas

Chris and Frank sit with 2 legends of muskie fishing Larry Ramsell and Pete Maina. In this amazing session, the Canada/US muskie landscapes are discussed and Pete and Larry provide their unique insights. Topics include:

• What is it about Muskies
• Is muskie still the fish of 10,000 casts?
• Why fish don't bite
• Fishing for THE fish

Chris and Frank sit with Muskies Canada Inc President Joe Found to talk about the new and exciting format to this year's Muskie Odyssey as it merges with the powerhouse CanCast show in Peterborough, Ontario

In part two the guys delve deeper into how to target these monster pike and then tie it all back to muskie fishing! Florian gets in to the ideal conditions and discusses his North American muskie fishing adventures! Points include:

• Shallow water giants vs pelagic fish
• Florian's monster pike
• Proper weather and moon conditions for giant pike
• Florian's muskie adventures

For the first time in the show's history, the guys have a fishing chat on 3 continents! Florian Berger is a master monster pike hunter based out of Germany. Florian has caught giants, including one pike over 55 inches! The guys sat with Florian to hear his fascinating story and to talk about the similarities and differences between hunting giant pike, and giant muskie! Topics include:

• Florian's origin story
• Fishing in different European waters
• Water landscapes for catching big pike
• Big pike behaviour
• Taking muskie approaches back to Europe for dramatic success

In this second part of a truly remarkable discussion with one of the pioneers of Georgian Bay Muskie fishing, Shawn gives a great discussion on what baits were run back then and also provides chilling insight into absolute giant fish that were witnessed during this era. This is going to shock a lot of listeners. Points of discussion include:

• Lures of the 1990s
• Six or seven-foot muskies?
• How to choose the right lure on the Bay
• Georgian Bay Nothingness

With all of the talk recently of the rich history of Georgian Bay, Chris and Frank wanted to connect with one of the veterans of this body of water. Shawn McCarthy was fishing the Bay in the very early 1990s and comes on to the podcast to give a glimpse as to what trying to conquer such a daunting body of water like Georgian Bay was like in the earlier days, before technology and social media made it easier. In this episode the topics discussed are:

• The decision to fish the Bay
• Learning about muskies before the internet
• Trolling and structure before electronics became accurate
• Fishing deep water
• Shawn's best lure ever

The Ugly Pike Podcast wraps up its deep dive with Johnny Dadson and Pete Bostelmann in Part 3 of this wide ranging conversation. This episode shifts from stories to strategy as the group digs into casting versus trolling, how elite anglers decide when to use each approach, and why big fish so often live just a couple tail kicks from deep water. Johnny breaks down his philosophy of lure innovation as problem solving, explaining how decades of tweaking blades, weight, and action are all driven by fish behaviour and pressure. Pete shares his methodical approach to finding fish, scouting water, and committing to the right spot at the right time. The discussion touches on confidence, visualization, decision making, and how experience reshapes the way anglers fish over a full season rather than chasing moment to moment results. This episode closes out the trilogy with hard earned insight, honest reflection, and the kind of conversation that rewards pen and paper listening.