How do you make your design system an internal rooted practice? Our guest today is Dan Mall, entrepreneur and author of Design That Scales. You’ll learn how small practices can evolve into a design system, why adoption should tie in to your company’s mission statement, how to declare your strategic plan when establishing a design system, and more.

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• Design That Scales — Dan’s new book
• Design System University
• Episode 258: Data-driven Design Systems with Berk Çebi
• Omlet.dev
• Zeroheight, Supernova, Knapsack — modern tools for design systems
• Check out Dan’s website
• Sign up for Dan’s newsletter
• Follow Design System University on Twitter and LinkedIn
• Follow Dan on Twitter and Instagram
• Get Dan’s book

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Today we have another episode of Better Done Than Perfect. Listen in as we talk to Kai Davis, an SEO consultant. You'll learn how often you should update your pages, the two levers for improving your SEO, how to use heat mapping, and more.

Please head over to the episode page for the detailed recap and key takeaways.

• Survey-based Research Projects with Becky Lawlor
• Ahrefs, Semrush – popular SEO tools
• Screaming Frog
• Hotjar – a heat mapping tool
• Follow Kai on Twitter
• Get Kai's exclusive resources for BDTP listeners

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What design interventions can help improve human connection in your software product? Our guest today is Evelyn Gosnell, behavior scientist and managing director at Irrational Labs. You’ll learn what behavioral design is, the foundational principles of human connection, how AI products are trying to establish trust and connection with their users, and more.

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• Irrational Labs — Evelyn’s company
• Episode 221: Behavioral Economics with Kristen Berman
• Negativity Bias, Similarity Bias
• The Liking Gap
• The Science of Change — Irrational Labs’ podcast show
• Check out Evelyn’s website

This episode is brought to you by Penpot — an open-source design tool that bridges the gap between designers and developers. Among other new features in Penpot 2.0, their CSS Grid Layout helps you design responsively and efficiently, and take your design and development workflow to the next level. Join Penpot for free at penpot.app.

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