Episodios

  • Exodus 1-6 with John Bytheway

    Exodus 1-6 with John Bytheway
    Mar 23 2026
    Co-Hosts Connor Pay and Chase Roberts welcome John Bytheway, the co-host of the "Follow Him" podcast, to dive into Exodus chapters 1 through 6. From the rise of a new Pharaoh who "knew not Joseph" to the burning bush and Moses' call to deliver Israel, this episode explores what it means to know who you are when the world — or the adversary — tries to tell you otherwise. The trio shares insights into the meaning of Moses' name, how Satan's first move is always an attack on identity, and what the Hebrew phrase "I Am That I Am" reveals about the nature of God.
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    1 h y 2 m
  • Genesis 42-50

    Genesis 42-50
    Mar 16 2026
    This week, Connor and Chase are holding things down on their own as they explore Genesis 42–50 and the remarkable story of Joseph in Egypt. What begins as a familiar Old Testament narrative quickly opens up into something richer — a life full of deliberate, Christlike parallels. Joseph is rejected by his own brothers, sold for silver, imprisoned unjustly, and ultimately lifted to a position of life‑saving authority. The guys break down why these connections to the Savior aren’t accidental and what they reveal about God’s pattern of working through hardship. They also dive deep into the theme of divine timing. Drawing from Chase’s current battle with injury leading up to the NFL Draft, the conversation turns personal as they talk about how adversity often feels random — and why it might actually be preparation.
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    38 m
  • Genesis 37-41 with Izabele Christensen, Ivy Stout, James Calderon

    Genesis 37-41 with Izabele Christensen, Ivy Stout, James Calderon
    Mar 9 2026
    Join hosts Connor Pay and Chase Roberts for a powerful episode featuring three special guests: former sister missionaries Izabele Christensen and Ivy Stout, and convert James Calderon, whom they taught in the Washington, D.C. South Mission. In this deeply personal episode, James shares his remarkable journey from a difficult separation and divorce to finding truth through the restored gospel. What started as a chance encounter on a George Mason University street corner became a life-changing experience that illustrates key principles from the story of Joseph in Genesis 37-41. James vulnerably discusses his initial hesitation toward baptism, his ongoing battles with old habits, and how temple covenants became "a way to look forward in life." Izzy and Ivy share their perspective on watching God work in someone's life, emphasizing that you don't need to be perfect before making covenants - you need covenants to become perfect. This episode also powerfully demonstrates that "time and again, good fortune seemed to abandon Joseph, but the Lord never did" - a principle that applies to all our lives as we strive to keep our covenants with God.
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    1 h y 11 m
  • A Short Break!

    A Short Break!
    Mar 2 2026
    Connor Pay and Chase Roberts really needed to take a break. Connor recently got married and was on his honeymoon, while Chase Roberts has been participating in the NFL Draft Combine. They'll be back next week for a brand new episode of Two Point Conversion.
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    1 m
  • Genesis 18-23 with Shan Arumugam

    Genesis 18-23 with Shan Arumugam
    Feb 23 2026
    Hosts Connor Pay and Chase Roberts chat with Shan Arumugam, whose remarkable story of faith and transformation will inspire anyone facing adversity. From growing up in India's "untouchable" caste system to finding hope in the gospel of Jesus Christ, Shan shares his incredible journey—from contemplating suicide as a university student to discovering missionaries who changed his life forever. His story includes serving a mission without knowing English or Hindi, earning a scholarship to BYU Hawaii with just a few dollars in his pocket, and eventually being sealed in the temple. The conversation weaves Shan's personal testimony with insights from Genesis 18-23, exploring themes of covenant keeping, divine promises, and the sacrifice of Abraham and Isaac. The hosts discuss how Abraham and Sarah's decades-long wait for their promised son mirrors our own faith journeys, and how every religion points back to the ultimate sacrifice of Jesus Christ.
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    1 h y 1 m
  • Genesis 12-17; Abraham 1-2 with Jaren Kump

    Genesis 12-17; Abraham 1-2 with Jaren Kump
    Feb 16 2026
    Join hosts Connor Pay and Chase Roberts for a powerful, faith-filled conversation with former Utah Utes center Jaren Kump. In this episode, Jaren opens up about his unexpected journey—from being committed to BYU to ultimately choosing the University of Utah—and how personal revelation guided him through that difficult, soul-searching decision. Together, they dive into Genesis 12–17 and Abraham 1–2, exploring the depth and beauty of the Abrahamic Covenant and what it means to live as covenant-keeping disciples today. Jaren shares how staying true to his covenants shaped his choices both on and off the field, even when those choices weren’t easy or popular. Other Episode Highlights: - The often-overlooked temple symbolism woven throughout the Book of Abraham - The sacred responsibility—and blessings—that come with making covenants - What it looks like to be a missionary wherever you stand, even when it means representing your faith on a rival team
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    59 m
  • Moses 7 with BYU OL Andrew Gentry

    Moses 7 with BYU OL Andrew Gentry
    Feb 2 2026
    Join hosts Connor Pay and Chase Roberts, along with special guest Andrew Gentry, as they dive deep into Moses chapter 7 and explore what it means to build Zion in our modern world. In this episode, the trio discuss Enoch's powerful vision of human history, God's emotional connection to His children, and the profound doctrine of agency. They explore how the Lord weeps for us, why He gave us the ability to choose, and what it takes to become a people "of one heart and one mind."
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    59 m
  • Genesis 5; Moses 6 with Ryan Rehkow

    Genesis 5; Moses 6 with Ryan Rehkow
    Jan 26 2026
    Join hosts Connor Pay and special guest co-host Trevor Pay as they sit down with former BYU punter and current Cincinnati Bengals player Ryan Rehkow. In this episode, the crew dives deep into Moses Chapter 6 and the story of the prophet Enoch—a man who felt completely unqualified for his calling. Sound familiar? Ryan shares his wild journey from an undrafted free agent workout to becoming an NFL punter, including moments of crippling self-doubt during his second season. Connor opens up about transitioning from NFL dreams to coaching and nonprofit work, while Trevor reflects on returning from his mission completely out of shape and questioning if he belonged. The trio also discusses how to move forward when you feel inadequate, what it means to "walk with God" in everyday life, and finding confidence not in ourselves, but in our divine identity.
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    56 m