Things get a little deeper on this episode as Mark talks about his low bars and the twins discuss the challenge of finding true nourishment and the difference between surrendering and not caring.

Kate mentioned a quote in the pod, "courage is fear walking," by an author whose name she couldn't remember, it's Susan David, the author of Emotional Agility.

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Join Kate and Mark as they talk about the difference between trying to Fit into something versus seeing if it Fits you, if you're Aligned with it. Does it give you energy, get you excited? That's Alignment in action. And we also find out Kate needs a better mirror, just like the rest of us.

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Kate and Mark share the inspiration behind starting Twinsdom, including their appreciation for their mutual support over the years and a shared love of meaningful conversations, Mark's love of deep divers and his symbolic journey from being a turtle to being a lion, and their hope for the pod to be a space for connection and community. Life's hard, let's make it easier by doing it together.

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