• Tolkien's Shire Anarchy and the Mandate of Heaven

  • Apr 8 2025
  • Duración: 1 h y 35 m
  • Podcast

Tolkien's Shire Anarchy and the Mandate of Heaven

  • Resumen

  • This week, I'm welcoming fellow substacker and Tolkien nerd, Charles McBride, whose essay 'Shire Anarchy' caught my eye in the cultural curiosity that is the substack notes app.

    We're diving into the political imagination behind Middle-Earth – a world where having a king is perfectly fine, as long as he's quite far away or, better yet, long dead.

    From childhood obsessions with Tolkien to the strange bedfellows his work creates in modern fandom, Charles and I explore what it means when the villain of the story isn't a particular people, but the very desire for total control. How did this Franco-supporting Catholic writer end up crafting one of the most compelling visions of localism and self-governance in modern literature? And what might the hobbits teach us about freedom in an age of empire?

    "I think Shire anarchy is best described in a sentence I wrote in the piece, where I said that all the affairs of hobbits are organized under the assumption that having a king was basically a good idea, so long as he was quite far away, or better yet, long dead. And I think that that kind of cuts to the heart of what this concept of Shire anarchy is. You have a society that holds a reverence for the past. And they believe that their system of political and social organization is derived from something authoritative in their deep, distant past."

    Show Notes
    • Charles’s amazing essay, Shire Anarchy.

    • Charles on Instagram.

    Timestamps

    02:00 - Charles' essay "Shire Anarchy" and initial connection

    04:00 - Childhood experiences with Tolkien and homeschooling background

    08:30 - Gordon's similar Tolkien childhood experiences

    11:00 - Discussion of Substack platform and media evolution

    14:00 - Tolkien's political views and introduction to "quiet radicalism"

    15:30 - Explanation of Tolkien as an "anarcho-monarchist"

    18:30 - Monarchy, pragmatism, and Tolkien's support for Franco

    22:30 - The Ring as metaphor for power, greed, and capital

    25:00 - Lord of the Rings' resilience against political appropriation

    27:30 - Peter Jackson's film adaptation achievement

    29:00 - Charles' viral thread about polarized Tolkien fandom

    32:00 - CS Lewis vs. Tolkien on moral clarity and writing

    35:30 - Lewis as a potential universalist and perennial philosophy

    38:30 - Religious conversion, cultural identity, and belonging

    42:30 - Modern politics, monarchy, and fascism as shadow kingship

    45:00 - Definition and explanation of "Shire anarchy" concept

    50:30 - Charles' personal political journey toward anarchism

    54:00 - Political polarization and contemporary discourse

    57:00 - Defining philosophical anarchism and attitudes toward hierarchy

    59:30 - Religion as natural human function and political movements

    63:00 - Discussion of The Hobbit movies and fan edits

    69:00 - Concluding thoughts and where to find Charles online

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