Philip brings on Ben Avery from the Strangers and Aliens Podcast to discuss the subtle biblical themes in Tolkien's works and how they compare to C.S. Lewis’s more explicit allegories. They also explore the challenges of representing Christ figures in fiction and share their thoughts on the Rings of Power series. Additionally, the conversation touches on The Rings of Power series and evaluates its interpretations and modern adaptations of Tolkien's timeless themes.

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00:00 Introduction

01:32 Ben Avery's Journey IntoTolkien's World

04:11 Strangers and Aliens Podcast

06:45 Telling a Story from aChristian Perspective

10:10 Advantage to WritingChristian Themes At Different Degrees

17:09 Writing Christ (or ChristLike Characters) into the Story

21:04 Write to Evangelize or RelayBible Themes

25:20 Tolkien's Universal Appeal

29:48 Worldview: Tolkien vs ROP

39:40 Ben's Rating of ROP

43:52 Closing Thoughts

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