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De: Dr Kate De Jong & Sam Morris
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THRIVING BUSINESS

Business Insights to Help You Grow Your Business with Ease

We’re two seasoned business owners — Sam Morris and Kate De Jong — sharing our nearly thirty-year combined experience of starting and growing service-based businesses from the ground up. We so many small businesses struggling or falling prey to expensive promises of quick fixes or silver bullets. Both of us know what it REALLY takes to start and grow a business, we've done it many times over and we've got the blisters to prove it! We’ve joined forces to share our knowledge and experience so you can find the easiest path to success, doing it your way, and most importantly — staying true to yourself.

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  • Ep #4 | Marketing that Works: How to Get Your Offer in Front of the Right People
    Mar 26 2026

    "Marketing is the communication bridge between your business and your potential customers."

    In this fourth episode of the Roadmap to Business Success series, hosts Kate and Sam explore the next layer in the Revenue Generation quadrant of the Thriving Business Wheel: Marketing Strategy.

    Now that you've nailed your business identity and crafted your irresistible offer, it's time to take it to market. But marketing is one of the most misunderstood, and misused, areas of business. In this episode, Kate and Sam cut through the noise and give you a practical, grounded framework for marketing your business without burning out or burning through your budget.

    In this episode, you will learn:

    • Why foundations come first: If you haven't nailed your business identity and your irresistible offer, your marketing will struggle, no matter how much you spend. Kate shares the story of a client who spent $60,000 on a failed marketing campaign without a single sale, and exactly what went wrong.
    • The three channels of marketing: Traditional (TV, print, letterbox drops), relational (networking, referrals, strategic partnerships), and digital (social media, SEO, email), and why you should never rely on just one.
    • The truth about social media: Why organic social media posting builds visibility and brand awareness but rarely converts to sales on its own, and what to do instead.
    • How to choose the right platform for your business: LinkedIn for B2B and professional services, Instagram for visual brands, Facebook for community-based businesses, and TikTok for reaching younger audiences. Sam shares a practical tip: start with the platforms you already use and understand.
    • Inbound vs outbound marketing: The difference between pushing your message out (social media, ads) and drawing customers in (SEO, Google Business Profile, AI search), and why both matter.
    • Getting found by AI: Why SEO is still the foundation of AI search, and how Sam's brand-new business was recommended by AI simply by being specific and optimising the basics.
    • The power of email marketing: Why the money is still in the list, why you own your email list in a way you'll never own your social media following, and how to build a list that actually converts.
    • Lead magnets and list building: How a free quiz, ebook or guide can bring in new subscribers consistently, even years after you create it.
    • Email open rates and list hygiene: What good open rates look like, when to clean your list, and why you should never be offended by an unsubscribe.
    • Sam's closing framework: Why marketing must be a multi-pronged approach. Choose one channel from each of the three categories and build from there.

    Kate and Sam also discuss the rapidly changing landscape of AI search, why "AI junk" is flooding social media and how to stand out, and why just having the tools (AI, Canva) doesn't mean you know how to use them effectively.

    Join the Workshop: Kate and Sam are hosting their Revenue Breakthrough Workshop on Wednesday 15 April — a live Zoom session where you can bring your real questions on marketing, business identity, branding, and revenue generation and get coaching directly from bot

    Connect with Your Hosts:

    Kate De Jong, PhD | Inspired Business 🌐 Website: https://katedejong.com/ 📱 Instagram: @katedejong.inspiredbusiness ✉️ Email: kate@katedejong.com

    Sam Morris | The O8 🌐 Website: https://www.theo8.com/ 📱 Instagram: @the_o8crew ✉️ Email: sam@theo8.com

    Thriving Business Podcast 🌐Website: https://www.thrivingbusinesspodcast.com/


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    45 m
  • Ep 3 | Craft an Irresistible Offer and Watch Your Revenue Generation Soar
    Mar 20 2026

    In this third episode of the Roadmap to Business Success series, hosts Kate and Sam explore the second part of the revenue quadrant: how to craft an irresistible offer. Described as the "engine" of your revenue generation model, an irresistible offer is about providing a compelling solution to a problem that people feel compelled to say "yes" to.

    In this episode, you will learn:

    • Market validation vs. market research: Why you must ensure the market will actually buy what you have to sell before investing hundreds of hours into development.
    • The Power of Specificity: Why your offer must solve a very specific problem for a very specific person to be effective.
    • Selling the Transformation: Shifting your focus from "what you do" to the result the client achieves at the end of the process.
    • Establishing Bulletproof Credibility: How to use social proof, Google reviews, and even "borrowed credibility" from mentors to build trust with skeptical buyers.
    • Pricing for Value, Not Time: Why slashing prices is often the wrong move and how to price based on the emotional and financial value of the outcome.
    • Risk Reversal: Using guarantees to shift the responsibility from the customer to the business owner, making the purchase a "no-brainer".
    • Productisation and the Rule of Three: How to bundle services into three tiers to suit different needs and budgets without causing "choice paralysis".
    • Genuine Scarcity and Urgency: How to use limited numbers or real deadlines to motivate potential clients to act now.

    Kate and Sam also share their philosophy of "selling before you build," explaining how delivering a service as you develop it allows for vital market feedback and prevents the heartbreak of a "flat" launch.

    Join the Workshop: If you need expert eyes on your offer, Kate and Sam are hosting a workshop on the 15th of April to help you tweak and optimise your strategy for maximum impact.

    Next Week: Tune in for the next episode where the discussion moves to taking your offer to market and the mechanics of marketing and sales.

    Connect with Your Hosts:

    Kate De Jong, PhD | Inspired Business 🌐 Website: https://katedejong.com/ 📱 Instagram: @katedejong.inspiredbusiness ✉️ Email: kate@katedejong.com

    Sam Morris | The O8 🌐 Website: https://www.theo8.com/ 📱 Instagram: @the_o8crew ✉️ Email: sam@theo8.com

    Thriving Business Podcast 🌐Website: https://www.thrivingbusinesspodcast.com/


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    50 m
  • Ep #2 | Define Your Business Identity: The Foundation of Revenue Generation
    Mar 11 2026

    Welcome to Season 2, Episode 2 of the Thriving Business Podcast!

    Over the next 18 episodes, we're walking you through all the essential elements of business building in a structured way, based on our Thriving Business Wheel, with the following four quadrants:

    Quadrant 1: Earn (Revenue Generation)

    Quadrant 2: Keep (Profitability)

    Quadrant 3: Grow (Capacity and Scaling)

    Quadrant 4: Lead (Lead with Impact)

    Today's episode begins in quadrant one (revenue generation) by covering the foundational topic of Business Identity.

    "Marketing fails when a business doesn’t know its own soul."

    You'll discover why it's essential to clarify your brand values, mission, vision, and “why”, even if you've been in business for a while now. These foundational elements flow into your branding, marketing and sales, which all create your ability to bring in the money.

    Tune in as Sam and Kate help you strengthen your business identity, the engine of your revenue generation machine.

    00:00 Revenue Generation Kickoff
    00:51 Business Identity Matters
    02:57 Branding Foundations
    04:17 Personal vs Brand Persona
    05:36 The Oh Eight Story
    07:31 Brand Vision Board Exercises
    09:30 Audience First Branding
    11:42 Start With Why
    16:27 Because Taglines Work
    17:59 Premium Branding and Design
    22:11 Messaging From Your Why
    23:31 Vision Mission Values Framework
    25:17 Values as Verbs
    26:41 Clarity Before AI Messaging
    27:51 One Clear Offer
    28:56 Market Research Mindset
    31:54 AI and Competitor Gaps
    33:02 Ads as Research Tools
    35:09 Specificity Wins Clients
    37:40 Brand Bar Exercise
    41:30 Identity Evolves Over Time
    46:40 Final Wrap and Next Episode

    Connect with Your Hosts:

    Kate De Jong, PhD | Inspired Business 🌐 Website: https://katedejong.com/ 📱 Instagram: @katedejong.inspiredbusiness ✉️ Email: kate@katedejong.com

    Sam Morris | The O8 🌐 Website: https://www.theo8.com/ 📱 Instagram: @the_o8crew ✉️ Email: sam@theo8.com

    Thriving Business Podcast 🌐Website: https://www.thrivingbusinesspodcast.com/


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    49 m
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