How far do we go in investing in systems that are, in some ways, opposed to God’s kingdom?

When does engagement become entanglement?

Are we salvaging a sinking ship—or are we being drawn into a false hope in human progress?

Are we engaging to serve, love, and witness—or to gain power, security, or identity?

Are we humble, prayerful, and distinct—or are we blending in, compromising, or losing our prophetic voice?

Is our ultimate hope in Christ and his kingdom—or in the myth of progress, politics, or institutional reform?

Maybe the ship is sinking—but our role isn’t necessarily to patch every hole. It’s to bear witness to another kingdom, even as we love and serve those on board. We’re not called to save Babylon, but to seek its peace while pointing to the New Jerusalem.

In this episode of Thrive Perspectives, we’re peeling back the layers of a truth that’s both unsettling and liberating: our natural resistance to God. Whether you're a lifelong believer or just beginning to explore faith, this conversation invites honesty, because the tension isn’t just “out there”—it’s in us. Even as Christians, called to surrender, we often find ourselves resisting the very grace we profess to follow.

Why do we resist the very presence we crave? What does it mean to be drawn toward God while holding back from the mountain’s edge? And how can spiritual knowing emerge not from mastery, but from surrender?