Welcome to MID Season Five...We have a very special guest.

Mia Freedman has been in countless conversations with Holly Wainwright—on mics, off mics, in meetings, in texts. But she’s never been on MID. Until now.

In this episode, Holly kicks off Season Five with someone who knows her well, and who’s read something very personal—her brand new book, He Would Never.

It’s a story about the limits and power of female friendships, narcissistic love, and the tricky transitions from girlhood to teenagehood. And Mia had thoughts. Lots of them. For one - the teenage girls we were in the 90s are very different than the teenage girls of today.

This episode is about writing and ambition. Confidence and self-doubt. Teenage daughters and their teenage selves. It’s a conversation between two women the same age, but at different parenting stages.

At the end of this episode, Holly has a very special gift for you - so stick around, you don't want to miss it.

You can pre order Holly's book He Would Never here. And it's available in all good book stores from April 29th

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Mamamia's new podcast BIZ is rewriting the rules of work with no generic advice - just real strategies from women who've actually been there. Listen here.

CREDITS:

Host: Holly Wainwright

Guest: Mia Freedman

Executive Producer: Naima Brown

Senior Producer: Grace Rouvray

Producer: Tahli Blackman

Audio Producer: Jacob Round

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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In this practical and wisdom-packed episode, professional organiser and founder of Mise en Place, Anita Birges, shares her game-changing approach to conquering family chaos through simple systems that actually work! With four children in her blended family, Anita understands firsthand the overwhelm of managing endless school bags, lunch boxes and sentimental clutter, offering solutions from her revolutionary "go elsewhere box" that stops you picking up after your kids, to creating dedicated family drop zones that eliminate the morning "where's my shoes?!" panic.

Anita explains why teaching kids organisational skills equips them with essential life tools, sharing age-appropriate strategies for decluttering without guilt (yes, you can toss those kindergarten drawings!) and breaking overwhelming spaces into "bite-sized pieces" that make organisation achievable for even the most chaotic households.

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With thanks to Anita Birges

CREDITS:
Hosts: Annaliese Todd & Tegan Natoli
Producer: Tina Matolov
Audio Producer: Lu Hill

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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In this special mother-son episode, beloved comedian and broadcaster Kate Langbroek and her 21-year-old son Lewis Lewis (yes, same first and last name) share the kitchen table wisdom that created their enviable mother-son relationship, and what really works in raising boys to become good men.

Lewis reveals the parenting "nails" that shaped him - from Kate's emphasis on cooking together as a way to connect, to her positive approach to masculinity; while Kate shares how parenting evolves with each child (the inevitable relaxing of rules for younger siblings!) Lewis also reflects on how challenging experiences - like their family's move to Italy during COVID - ultimately shaped his character.

Their playful banter showcases a relationship many parents aspire to have with their adult children, offering a heartwarming glimpse into a relationship built on mutual respect, shared laughter, and the simple power of gathering around a home-cooked meal.

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WIN $10k to use towards a cleaner*

Visit nestlebabyandme.com.au/pausethechores to enter!
*Promotion starts between 24/03/25 (AEDT) – 31/07/25 (AEST). AU residents 18+. Max 1 entry p/person. Draw: Unit 3/2 Cross St, Brookvale NSW 2100 at 10am AEST on 05/08/25. Prize: $10,000 transferred to winner’s bank account. Winner notified and published on nestle.com.au/productnews/winners by 12/8/25. Claim prize by 5pm AEDT on 12/11/25. Unclaimed prize draw occurs 13/11/25. Promoter: Nestle Australia Ltd. Full T&Cs at www.nestlebabyandme.com.au/pausethechores. Permit No's: ACT TP 25/00355 & SA T25/260.

Head here to get a yearly subscription for just $39. and use the code MONTHOFTGM

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With thanks to Kate Langbroek and Lewis Lewis

CREDITS:
Hosts: Annaliese Todd & Stacey Hicks
Producer: Tina Matolov
Audio Producer: Lu Hill

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.