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There's a lot to unpack here... from how law firms fail to prepare students for working in small firms to creative acts in law firm ownership to creating a transformational journey for your clients. It's all thanks to Owen McGrann, the "anti-lawyer" and founder of McGrann Law.

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Maddy Martin of Smith.ai comes on the show to discuss the importance of "business discernment" and the need for foundational education in sales and marketing. We also explore the waves of automation and delegation in the legal profession and how to measure the impact of those changes. And then we dig into how to be a great partner with your vendors... so you get the best possible outcome from the relationship!

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Adam Rossen gives many f***s. That's kind of the secret to his success. While he may come across as all business, he really cares about his clients, his team, and his community. This kind of empathy and passion is one of the things he sees not taught in law school.

We also stumble into a big coaching moment at the end of the call, so make sure you stay tuned!

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