In this episode, Susan Wise Bauer and Susanna Jarrett talk about parenting styles and discipline strategies with psychologist and homeschool veteran Dr. Melanie Wilson. Dr. Wilson has her own podcast, The Homeschool Sanity Show. She also sells curricula and homeschool tools at Fun to Learn Books.

• (00:00) - Intro with Dr. Melanie Wilson
• (00:47) - Revisiting FlyLady
• (01:50) - Discipline and parenting style in homeschooling and how it has changed
• (10:04) - "Too hard" vs "Too soft" discipline styles
• (14:38) - How to set boundaries in a non-authoritarian way
• (20:38) - Break
• (21:38) - How to setup healthy boundaries?
• (28:45) - How to model behavior for a toddler
• (39:55) - Acknowledging childhood trauma
• (46:34) - Try to relax. Pay attention. Make tweaks.
• (49:54) - Outro

In this episode, Susan Wise Bauer and Susanna Jarrett talk to Marissa Franks Burt and Kelsey Kramer McGinnis the authors of The Myth of Good Christian Parenting: How False Promises Betrayed a Generation of Evangelical Families.

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• Instagram: @mburtwrites | @kelseykmcginnis
• Threads: @mburtwrites | @kelseykmcginnis
• Facebook: @mburtwrites | @kelsey.kramermcginnis
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• YouTube: @mburtwrites
• Website: Marissa

In the Church Library podcast

Links to additional interviews with Marissa and Kelsey

Marissa’s novels: Storybound, Story’s End, A Sliver of Stardust, A Legend of Starfire, and The 12 Dares of Christa

• (00:00) - Introduction with Marissa and Kelsey
• (06:14) - Children are human beings
• (07:16) - How a certain kind of theology can impact parenting
• (19:59) - Break
• (20:58) - Talking about sin
• (36:45) - The myth of instilling a worldview in adults
• (43:13) - Things Christians need to rethink
• (45:53) - Impactful stories
• (53:26) - Evaluating resources
• (54:41) - Check out "The Myth of Good Christian Parenting"
• (56:10) - Outro

In this episode, Susan Wise Bauer and Susanna Jarrett announce the upcoming release of The Story of the World, Volume 1: Ancient Times, 25th Anniversary Expanded Edition!

• Available everywhere February, 2026!
• The audiobook and/or PDF of the main text are available NOW at welltrainedmind.com
• Learn more about the Story of the World Vol 1: 25th Anniversary Expanded Edition HERE

• (00:00) - An announcement!
• (04:14) - What is different?
• (08:27) - More new features!
• (10:25) - The Instructor Guide and Student Book
• (15:29) - We're excited!!!

In this episode, Susan Wise Bauer and Susanna Jarrett react to listener responses to this season’s interview questions!

Note on Audio: Due to a technical issue, Susanna’s audio in this episode isn’t as clear as usual. Thanks for bearing with us—we think you’ll still enjoy the conversation!

• (00:00) - Intro
• (02:05) - How we're organizing the episode
• (02:39) - Favorite memories being homeschooled
• (02:49) - Cake doughnuts on snow days
• (05:16) - Hands-on projects
• (06:57) - Co-ops can be good!!!!
• (08:10) - One of the biggest challenges of homeschooling
• (08:45) - Hard relationships with parents
• (12:11) - The story of socialization
• (14:43) - Making the transition out of homeschooling
• (19:56) - Being self-motivated in a subject you hate
• (26:29) - Break
• (26:55) - If you could change one thing, what would it be?
• (27:02) - Us vs. Them
• (32:45) - Structure and technology
• (37:35) - Biggest challenges as a homeschool parent
• (37:48) - Career/school balance
• (44:26) - One piece of advice
• (44:36) - It will not look like the picture in your mind
• (45:39) - Try things!!
• (47:31) - Trust your gut
• (48:59) - Outro

In this episode, Susan, Susanna (and Susanna's teething one-year-old), interview Colleen Sharpe who went college for the first time after graduating two students from homeschool.

• Article by Colleen about her experience starting college at 55 years old.
• Research Susan Mentioned: A twenty-year study found that the amount of books available in a home had a bigger impact on a child's level of education than parent income, nationality, or parent level of education.

• (00:00) - Intro with Colleen Sharpe (and another special guest!)
• (00:42) - How Colleen and Susan know each other
• (04:29) - Colleen's homeschooling journey
• (07:19) - Fears and worries
• (09:20) - A Susanna check-in
• (09:51) - Colleen's second act
• (16:45) - How is homeschooling in Canada?
• (19:14) - Break
• (19:39) - Evolutions that stand out
• (24:01) - "Staying steady by staying curious"
• (26:40) - The role of books
• (29:14) - Finding room for curiosities and hobbies
• (31:23) - Instilling wisdom
• (34:30) - Colleen brags
• (38:07) - Outro

We will be back next week with a new episode! In the meantime, enjoy this re-release of our episode featuring Dr. Anika Prather.

Show notes:

Dr. Prather’s Website

Dr. Anika's Suggested Authors to Include in Your Study of the Cannon:

• Octavia Butler
• Anna Julia Cooper
• James Baldwin
• Martin Luther King
• Corretta Scott King
• Ralph Ellison
• Richard Wright
• Alain Locke
• Langston Hughes
• Carter G. Woodson
• Other Harlem Renaissance Author

• (00:00) - Intro with Dr. Anika Prather
• (02:22) - Is there Eurocentrism in classical education?
• (09:01) - Finding a better word than "eurocentrism"
• (12:33) - Marxist philosophy in classical education
• (15:42) - How to get to synthesis
• (38:58) - Classical education is understanding the human condition
• (43:02) - Wrapping up
• (43:21) - Outro

CONTRIBUTE your own response to this episode's interview questions for a chance to be featured on the final episode of this season!

In this episode, Susan Wise Bauer and Susanna Jarrett interview Dr. Melanie Wilson who has her own podcast for homeschoolers, The Homeschool Sanity Show. She also sells curricula and homeschool tools at Fun to Learn Books.

• A book that inspired Melanie: A Field Guide to Homeschooling by Christine Field
• The Fly Lady website!

• (00:00) - Intro with Dr. Melanie Wilson
• (00:35) - Melanie's history with homeschooling
• (03:16) - Melanie's call to homeschooling
• (13:09) - Setting expectations
• (15:18) - Habits, routines, and Fly Lady
• (28:11) - Break
• (28:36) - Back to the outline
• (28:48) - Changing styles
• (33:23) - Not losing yourself while homeschooling
• (40:46) - A pride point and sore point
• (46:07) - Outro

CONTRIBUTE your own response to this episode's interview questions for a chance to be featured on the final episode of this season!

In this episode, Susan and Susanna chat with Rachel from Seven In All on YouTube! Check out Rachel's YouTube Channel here. She also has her own curriculum and resources available here.

• (00:00) - Intro with Rachel
• (01:38) - Rachel's history and experience with homeschooling
• (07:49) - One thing to be thankful for
• (10:27) - What works and what doesn't
• (15:08) - Break
• (15:34) - How well did homeschool prepare Rachel?
• (17:50) - Was homeschooling a given?
• (19:02) - Difference between homeschooling offspring vs. siblings
• (20:46) - Fears and differences
• (23:05) - Any particular style?
• (28:52) - When and why did Rachel decide to start sharing?
• (30:12) - One piece of advice
• (33:59) - Outro