In this special episode, we sit down with Jessica San Luis, co-author of The Prison Wives Bible, to mark the launch of a book that is already resonating deeply with families impacted by incarceration. Jessica joins Host and Co-Author Phillip A. Jones in a candid conversation about why the book was written, who it is for, and the realities of loving someone behind bars that are so often left unspoken.

Together, the authors reflect on the long road that led to this project—from lived experience and years of navigating the criminal legal system, to the urgent need for practical guidance, emotional validation, and community for prison wives, partners, parents, and loved ones. They discuss the myths surrounding incarceration, the quiet labor carried by families on the outside, and how The Prison Wives Bible serves as both a roadmap and a lifeline through an often isolating journey.

This episode is an honest, compassionate conversation about resilience, loyalty, grief, love, and survival. Whether you are directly impacted by incarceration, work in advocacy, or want to better understand the human cost of the system, this discussion offers clarity, solidarity, and hope—and invites listeners into a space where these stories are finally centered and honored.

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Host Phillip A. Jones, Jr. speaks to the co-authors of the incredible new book, Breaking Chains, Building Futures. In this episode, we touch on the unique journeys of each contributor to the book, as they navigate their way from justice impaction to personal and professional successes. Don’t miss out on this compelling round table discussion, and subscribe to our channel for updates and notifications. Get your copy of the book today! https://a.co/d/htJENmp

On this episode of The Wall Behind and Beyond, Phillip A. Jones had a candid conversation with Tionna Larry, a remarkable young woman who story embodies resilience and purpose. Incarcerated at a young age, Tionna faced challenges that could have broken her spirit, but instead, they fueled her determination to create change. Now, at just 24 years old, she ls leading impactful work to support individuals living with mental illness and advocating for those still behind bars. Her journey from prison to becoming a voice for the voiceless is both powerful and inspiring, a testament to what's possible when you refuse to let your past define your future.