In this episode of The Utility Vegetation Management Podcast, hosts Nick Ferguson and Stephen Cieslewicz sit down with Floyd Hardin of Salt River Project (SRP) to explore how one of the nation’s largest public power utilities is navigating wildfire risk in the unique landscapes of the desert Southwest.

Floyd shares how SRP is learning from the wildfire experiences of states like California and Oregon, adapting those lessons to its own operations. The conversation dives into the challenges of managing invasive grass species across desert grasslands, and the balance between fuels reduction and fuels removal in high-risk areas.

The discussion also highlights the respectful and collaborative work SRP does on tribal lands, including cultural and regulatory considerations. Floyd explains SRP’s “no-reclose” policy during fire season—a bold step in wildfire mitigation—and discusses its practical implications for system reliability and public safety.

Listeners will also hear about SRP’s innovative defensible space program around distribution poles, its measurable impact on reducing outages and ignition risks, and what the future holds for wildfire prevention efforts.

Key Topics Covered:

• Lessons learned from Western wildfires
• Wildfire risk in desert ecosystems
• Managing invasive species as fuel sources
• SRP’s approach to fuels reduction vs. removal
• Collaborating with tribal nations
• Implementing a no-reclose policy
• Defensible space for distribution poles
• Future innovations in vegetation management

Whether you’re in a utility, land management, or policy role, this episode offers actionable insights into proactive wildfire mitigation in diverse environments.

A huge thank you to the sponsor of this season and episode, Clear Path Utility Solutions.

In this episode of The UVM Podcast, Steve and Nick explore the complex intersection of Utility Vegetation Management and the insurance industry with a focus on insurance for UVM Service Providers. With increasing risks from wildfires, storms, and climate change, insurers are re-evaluating their coverage models for utilities. The episode addresses how proactive vegetation management can impact insurance claims, liability assessments, and rate structures.

Our hosts also discuss real-world examples, changes in insurance underwriting practices, and opportunities for better alignment between utilities and insurers to mitigate wildfire and storm-related damages. This timely conversation sheds light on how UVM professionals can prepare for a future where insurance plays a larger role in operational and financial planning.

The episode format is a round table and the guests are:

• Jett Abramson, EVP at Amwins Group
• Mark Shipp, Senior EVP and Practice Leader from Hub Arbor Insurance Group
• Joshua Caudill, Founder and President, Safety Leadership Innovators

A big thank you to this episode's sponsor, Clear Path Utility Solutions.

In this episode, Nick interviews Steve, to discuss his 2025 UVM report calling for a transformation in how utilities manage vegetation near power infrastructure. With over four decades of experience shaping industry standards and investigating some of the most significant failures in North American grid reliability—including the 2003 Northeast Blackout—Cieslewicz outlines why traditional, reactive vegetation management is no longer viable. He makes a powerful case for proactive, data-driven strategies that not only prevent wildfires and outages but also address regulatory gaps, environmental justice, and rising utility costs.

Nick delves into his recommendations for integrating proven practices like Right Tree, Right Place (RTRP), Trees for Energy Conservation (TEC), and defensible space standards into utility operations. Listeners will hear how emerging technologies like AI, LiDAR, and satellite monitoring can revolutionize risk detection, and why cost equity must become a central focus of UVM reform. Whether you're a utility professional, regulator, or community stakeholder, this conversation sheds light on the urgent need to reimagine how we manage our energy landscapes—and why failure to act now could have catastrophic consequences.

The full report can be downloaded here.

A big thank you to the sponsor of this episode, Clear Path Utility Solutions, providing world-class construction management, vegetation management, emergency / non-emergency management, quality support and pre-inspections services to utility companies in North America.