Ever feel anger rise up and wonder, “Where did that come from?”

Explore why anger isn’t the problem, and what it’s been trying to protect all along.

In this episode of The Underlayer, host David Young is joined by Carolyn Warsham for a deep, honest conversation about anger, emotional health, and personal growth, especially in midlife.

Together, they unpack why anger is one of the most misunderstood emotions, how cultural and corporate conditioning teaches us to suppress it, and what happens when unexpressed feelings quietly accumulate beneath the surface.

Carolyn shares personal stories and professional insight to reframe anger not as something to fix or avoid, but as a signal, often pointing to crossed boundaries, unmet needs, or unprocessed experiences.

The conversation also explores:

• Why anger often resurfaces more intensely in midlife
• How corporate culture and social norms discourage emotional expression
• The “pressure cooker” effect of suppressed emotions
• The difference between healthy anger and toxic outbursts
• How therapy, coaching, and curiosity can help us process emotions safely

If you’ve ever felt surprised by your own anger or wondered why it shows up when life looks “fine” on the outside, then this episode will help you understand what’s really going on beneath the surface.

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In this solo episode of The Underlayer, host David Young explores how childhood fear, especially around visibility and public speaking, quietly shapes our lives well into midlife.

David shares personal stories from growing up as the quiet kid in the back of the classroom, including a painful public speaking experience at age 14 that influenced how he used (or avoided) his voice for decades.

Through reflection and storytelling, this episode explores a powerful realization:

The thing that terrified you as a kid may be what you’re meant to heal as an adult.

If you’re a mid-life professional who looks successful on the outside but struggles with fear, anxiety, or self-expression on the inside, this conversation will help you see fear differently, not as something to eliminate, but as information pointing you forward.

Topics covered:

• Childhood fear and adult behavior
• Public speaking anxiety and fear of visibility
• Personal growth and finding your voice
• Why fear evolves instead of disappearing
• How storytelling helps us heal and move forward

This episode is the foundation of David’s keynote, The Fear That Formed Me, and an invitation to stop letting fear quietly run the show.

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Episode — The Real Story Beneath Your Relationships

with Lisa De Nicola

What if the relationships you’re struggling with aren’t the problem, but the old patterns running beneath them?

In this episode of The Underlayer, leadership and executive coach Lisa De Nicola takes us below the surface to uncover how childhood strategies shape the way we speak up at work, choose partners, maintain friendships, and set boundaries, and how rewriting those strategies starts with small, honest shifts.

What begins as a conversation about relationships becomes a blueprint for reclaiming your voice, your energy, and the parts of yourself you’ve hidden to stay safe.

You’ll hear:

• The moment two mentors reflected a buried childhood wound back to Lisa, and how that realization reshaped every relationship in her life

• How trauma-informed therapy and spiritual guidance accelerated her healing and restored emotional expression as a leadership superpower

• Why “success” in relationships has nothing to do with years together, and everything to do with authenticity, growth, and energy

• How curiosity can resuscitate long-term relationships that have fallen into assumptions and stale stories

• Practical tools to navigate conflict in real time: ask for the hour you need to regulate, name your emotions clearly, and stop expecting people to read your mind

• How small, honest steps prevent the quiet resentments that erode teams, partnerships, and friendships alike

By the end, you’ll understand why healing happens both alone and in partnership, why your patterns are not your identity, and how changing tiny relational habits can transform your confidence at work and at home.

🎧 The Underlayer — Where the Real Story Lives.

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