When wealthy pet owners happily spend on designer collars and gourmet treats but refuse essential veterinary care, the frustration for veterinary teams runs deep. In this episode of the Uncharted Veterinary Podcast, Dr. Andy Roark and Stephanie Goss unpack why affluent clients decline services, how this impacts team morale, and what strategies can help bridge the gap. From shifting your mindset to mastering client communication, they share practical ways to reduce judgment, build trust, and protect your clinic culture. Let's get into this episode!

Set sail with us at the Uncharted Veterinary Conference 2026, live at VMX on January 16 in Orlando. This exclusive one-day event is designed to help veterinary leaders turn ideas into action, build confidence in their next steps, and connect with a powerful community that believes in the future of vetmed. Spots are limited to keep the experience intentional and high-impact, so don’t wait, register today.

Step into leadership with the support and skills you need at the Uncharted Team Leads Summit. This one-day, interactive event is designed for veterinary supervisors and leads who want to strengthen communication, boost confidence, and guide their teams with purpose. You’ll learn how to handle team venting in healthy ways, explore practical AI tools, and shape your role so it works for you instead of the other way around. With small-group workshops, RACE-approved CE, and a community that understands the realities of leadership in vetmed, this summit is the perfect place to grow. Reserve your spot today: Team Leads Summit 2025

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Stephanie is a former practice manager who lives on the Olympic Peninsula in Washington State. With over 20 years of experience both on the floor and in the office, Stephanie is passionate about staff education, team culture, management and training. Stephanie loves to geek out about technology, especially Practice Management Software. She has experience as a practice manager in both private and corporate practices, ranging in size from one to seven doctors. She has experience as a consultant and trainer with AVImark software, paperlite/paperless transitions, practice management and staff training.

Ever had a case where the client was all in on helping their pet feel better, but regular in-clinic treatments just weren’t practical? Maybe it was a large dog with arthritis whose owner struggled to get them in the car. Or a client who cringes at the thought of daily medications. Dr. Andy Roark sits down with the brilliant Dr. Deb Torraca, veterinarian, rehab expert, and founder of Wizards of Paws Rehabilitation for Animals, to explore how at-home laser therapy is changing the way we manage pain, inflammation, and mobility issues in pets. This episode blends clinical insights with business innovation, making it a must-listen for veterinary professionals seeking to improve patient outcomes while also empowering clients at home. From managing osteoarthritis in French Bulldogs to implementing fleet-based lending models for rehab tools, this conversation is packed with actionable gems.

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Debbie Torraca is a highly respected professional in the field of canine physical rehabilitation and conditioning, boasting over twenty-five years of experience. She is the founder and director of Wizard of Paws Physical Rehabilitation for Animals, where she provides specialized care to her patients. \n \n In addition to her clinical work, Dr. Torraca is an esteemed educator, teaching across the United States and contributing her expertise as a founding member of the Certified Companion Animal Therapy and Certified Canine Manual Therapy programs at North Carolina State University. \n \n Her commitment to advancing the field is evident through her active involvement in research focused on canine performance issues. Notably, she has explored the use of photobiomodulation therapy to enhance athletic performance and address conditions such as degenerative myelopathy and intervertebral disc disease (IVDD). Dr. Torraca’s dedication to both practice and education continues to make a significant impact on the health and performance of canine athletes.

When a new graduate veterinarian joins your team, they bring fresh energy, curiosity, and hope for the future. But what happens when an experienced associate begins to undermine that confidence? Veterinary workplace bullying isn’t always loud or obvious, yet its impact can be devastating. Toxic behavior drives away bright new grads, damages team morale, and creates long-term retention challenges for practice leaders. In this episode of the Uncharted Veterinary Podcast, Dr. Andy Roark and Stephanie Goss dig into a tough mailbag question: “Help! My associate vet is bullying the new grads.” They unpack how leaders can recognize patterns of toxic workplace behavior, the importance of documenting incidents, and strategies for protecting new graduate veterinarians while addressing associate veterinarian conflict head-on.

Set sail with us at the Uncharted Veterinary Conference 2026, live at VMX on January 16 in Orlando. This exclusive one-day event is designed to help veterinary leaders turn ideas into action, build confidence in their next steps, and connect with a powerful community that believes in the future of vetmed. Spots are limited to keep the experience intentional and high-impact, so don’t wait, register today.

Step into leadership with the support and skills you need at the Uncharted Team Leads Summit. This one-day, interactive event is designed for veterinary supervisors and leads who want to strengthen communication, boost confidence, and guide their teams with purpose. You’ll learn how to handle team venting in healthy ways, explore practical AI tools, and shape your role so it works for you instead of the other way around. With small-group workshops, RACE-approved CE, and a community that understands the realities of leadership in vetmed, this summit is the perfect place to grow. Reserve your spot today: Team Leads Summit 2025

Upcoming events: https://learn.unchartedvet.com/pages/events

All Links: https://linktr.ee/UnchartedVet

Do you have something that you would love Andy and Stephanie to discuss on the podcast? If so, send us a message through the mailbag! Submit it here: unchartedvet.com/mailbag

Stephanie is a former practice manager who lives on the Olympic Peninsula in Washington State. With over 20 years of experience both on the floor and in the office, Stephanie is passionate about staff education, team culture, management and training. Stephanie loves to geek out about technology, especially Practice Management Software. She has experience as a practice manager in both private and corporate practices, ranging in size from one to seven doctors. She has experience as a consultant and trainer with AVImark software, paperlite/paperless transitions, practice management and staff training.

When your clinic goes through a veterinary practice sale, it can feel like the ground shifts overnight. Associates wonder what their future looks like, owners face the weight of transition, and teams question whether the culture they love will survive. In this episode of the Uncharted Veterinary Podcast, host Dr. Andy Roark talks with Dr. Gene Bauer of Blue River Pet Care about what really happens when a practice changes hands, how leaders can ease fear, and where hidden opportunities may be waiting. Curious about how to find stability and even growth in the middle of uncertainty? Let’s get into this episode!

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Step into the future of veterinary leadership at the Uncharted Veterinary Conference 2026, taking place live at VMX on January 16th in Orlando. This one-day, high-energy event is designed for practice owners, managers, and leaders who want more than ideas, they want results. You’ll walk away with actionable strategies, renewed clarity about your next steps, and meaningful connections with innovators shaping the profession. Attendance is intentionally capped to keep conversations impactful and personal, so spots are limited. Secure your registration now to guarantee your place at this exclusive leadership experience. Register here: https://learn.unchartedvet.com/pages/about-uncharted-veterinary-conference-2026

Elevate your impact at the Uncharted Team Leads Summit 2025, a one-day program built for veterinary team leads and supervisors ready to step confidently into leadership. This interactive summit blends RACE-approved CE with practical tools you can use right away, including strategies for redirecting team venting, AI resources that make daily tasks easier, and frameworks for leading with authenticity. With small-group workshops, hands-on practice, and the support of a like-minded veterinary community, you’ll strengthen your communication, grow your confidence, and design a leadership role that feels sustainable and effective. Seats are limited, so register today to reserve your place at the Team Leads Summit 2025. Register here: https://learn.unchartedvet.com/products/live_events/team-leads-summit-2025

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Gene Bauer, DVM, is the Medical Director of Bay Country Veterinary, which has locations in Annapolis and Crownsville, Maryland. When not in clinic, he channels his passion for animal welfare through his Business Development Specialist role at Blue River PetCare, where he builds relationships with practice owners who are interested in furthering their practice by joining the Blue River network.

When your clinic hits chaos, nothing hurts morale faster than a disappearing team member who slips away from the treatment floor when they are needed most. In this episode of the Uncharted Veterinary Podcast, Dr. Andy Roark and Stephanie Goss tackle a real mailbag case about “Brenda,” a well-meaning but frustrating employee whose habit of vanishing during busy times leaves teammates overwhelmed and resentful. They dig into why this happens, how leaders can respond with compassion and accountability, and what veterinary managers can do to reset expectations and protect team culture. Let's get into this episode!

Set sail with us at the Uncharted Veterinary Conference 2026, live at VMX on January 16 in Orlando. This exclusive one-day event is designed to help veterinary leaders turn ideas into action, build confidence in their next steps, and connect with a powerful community that believes in the future of vetmed. Spots are limited to keep the experience intentional and high-impact, so don’t wait, register today.

Step into leadership with the support and skills you need at the Uncharted Team Leads Summit. This one-day, interactive event is designed for veterinary supervisors and leads who want to strengthen communication, boost confidence, and guide their teams with purpose. You’ll learn how to handle team venting in healthy ways, explore practical AI tools, and shape your role so it works for you instead of the other way around. With small-group workshops, RACE-approved CE, and a community that understands the realities of leadership in vetmed, this summit is the perfect place to grow. Reserve your spot today: Team Leads Summit 2025

Upcoming events: https://learn.unchartedvet.com/pages/events

All Links: https://linktr.ee/UnchartedVet

Do you have something that you would love Andy and Stephanie to discuss on the podcast? If so, send us a message through the mailbag! Submit it here: unchartedvet.com/mailbag

Stephanie is a former practice manager who lives on the Olympic Peninsula in Washington State. With over 20 years of experience both on the floor and in the office, Stephanie is passionate about staff education, team culture, management and training. Stephanie loves to geek out about technology, especially Practice Management Software. She has experience as a practice manager in both private and corporate practices, ranging in size from one to seven doctors. She has experience as a consultant and trainer with AVImark software, paperlite/paperless transitions, practice management and staff training.

When you’re the one constantly picking up the slack in your practice, frustration can quickly turn into resentment. In this episode of the Uncharted Veterinary Podcast, Dr. Andy Roark sits down with Dr. Saye Clement to tackle the all-too-common struggle of feeling overworked while others seem to move more slowly. Together, they dig into why resentment creeps in, how to recognize it early, and what leaders can do to shift their mindset and protect their wellbeing without sacrificing patient care or team culture.

Dr. Saye Clement brings more than 28 years of veterinary experience to the conversation, including her time as Co-Owner and Medical Director at Carling Animal Hospital in Ottawa and her current role as Manager of Clinical Learning and Mentorship with NVA Canada. With a career dedicated to mentoring, teaching, and building sustainable clinic culture, Dr. Clement offers grounded, practical advice that busy practice owners and medical leaders can put into action right away. Let's get into this episode!

Uncharted Veterinary Conference 2026

Chart a new course for your career at the Uncharted Veterinary Conference 2026, happening live at VMX on January 16 in Orlando. This immersive, one-day experience is crafted for veterinary leaders ready to move beyond theory and put real strategies into play. Expect bold conversations, practical takeaways, and a close-knit group of peers who share your drive to shape the future of veterinary medicine. Attendance is intentionally capped to keep it high-energy and high-impact, secure your place before it’s gone: https://learn.unchartedvet.com/products/digital_downloads/uncharted-vet-conference-2026

Uncharted Team Leads Summit 2025

Lead with clarity, confidence, and connection at the Uncharted Team Leads Summit. This focused, one-day program is built for veterinary supervisors and leads who want to communicate more effectively, manage team stress constructively, and take charge of their role with purpose. Through interactive workshops, hands-on sessions with practical AI tools, and RACE-approved CE, you’ll walk away with actionable skills that make leadership feel less overwhelming and more rewarding. Space is limited to keep the learning personal, sign up now and step into the summit designed just for you. Register here: https://learn.unchartedvet.com/products/live_events/team-leads-summit-2025

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Dr. Saye Clement is a veterinarian with over 28 years of clinical experience. Aside from stints as an emergency veterinarian and self-employed locum, she spent the majority of her career at Carling Animal Hospital (in Ottawa, Canada) as a Co-Owner, Medical Director and Clinician. In late 2021, she stepped down from her leadership role within the hospital and assumed a role as an associate veterinarian. Outside of practice, she was honored to serve as the Director for Learning for Vet Alliance (an organization which supports independent practices in Canada) and enjoys giving the occasional lecture or workshop. She is passionate about helping others to develop great clinic culture and operational processes, and strives to provide information that can be easily implemented by busy professionals. Her current position is with NVA Canada, as Manager of Clinical Learning and Mentorship, where she is pursuing her passion for the on-going education and development of clinic teams.

Are you struggling to bring doctors on board after a hospital acquisition? In this episode of the Uncharted Veterinary Podcast, Dr. Andy Roark and Stephanie Goss tackle the challenges of onboarding an acquired hospital, from resistant associates to the cultural shift that comes with moving from independent practice to corporate structure.

They break down how leaders can build trust, create buy-in, and preserve a sense of autonomy while still implementing necessary systems. If you are navigating change in your practice group or considering how to support veterinarians through transitions, this conversation offers practical strategies and a new perspective on making onboarding successful. Let's get into this episode!

Uncharted Team Leads Summit 2025

Step into leadership with confidence at the Uncharted Team Leads Summit. This one-day event was designed for veterinary supervisors and team leads who want to strengthen communication, tackle tough conversations, and guide their teams with purpose. You will practice how to handle venting in healthy ways, explore AI tools that actually save time, and clarify your leadership role so it works for you. With small-group workshops, RACE-approved CE, and a supportive network that understands the reality of veterinary leadership, this is your chance to grow without going it alone. Reserve your spot today: https://learn.unchartedvet.com/products/live_events/team-leads-summit-2025

Get Sh*t Done: Financial Edition 2025

If managing money in your practice feels overwhelming, it does not have to stay that way. Join Uncharted’s Get Sh*t Done: Financial Edition on October 29, 2025, for a highly interactive virtual conference built for veterinary professionals who want clarity around their numbers. Learn how to streamline inventory, price your services with confidence, and set goals that drive your team forward. Through expert-led workshops, peer discussions, and CE credits, you will walk away with practical tools you can implement immediately. Spots are limited, so secure your seat now: https://learn.unchartedvet.com/products/live_events/gsd-2025

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Stephanie's Bio:

Stephanie is a former practice manager who lives on the Olympic Peninsula in Washington State. With over 20 years of experience both on the floor and in the office, Stephanie is passionate about staff education, team culture, management and training. Stephanie loves to geek out about technology, especially Practice Management Software. She has experience as a practice manager in both private and corporate practices, ranging in size from one to seven doctors. She has experience as a consultant and trainer with AVImark software, paperlite/paperless transitions, practice management and staff training.

Veterinary medicine is evolving faster than ever, and many leaders are struggling with the same challenge: how do you guide your team, embrace technology, and still protect the heart of our profession? In this episode of the Uncharted Podcast, Dr. Andy Roark welcomes Dr. Dave Nicol, veterinarian, practice owner, and international thought leader on veterinary leadership. Over his 20-year career, Dave has led multi-doctor teams on different continents, owned and managed four practices, and built a reputation for helping veterinary professionals find success and happiness in their work. He is also the founder of the Vet Leadership Academy and host of the Blunt Dissection Podcast, where he’s interviewed Olympians, cancer survivors, and some of the most transformative voices in and outside of veterinary medicine.

Andy and Dave dig into the realities of leadership in modern practice: the risks and rewards of technology like AI in veterinary medicine, the generational shift away from “vocation” as a driving force, and how leaders can create practice cultures that actually stick. If you’ve ever worried about your team disengaging, about overreliance on technology, or about how to keep veterinary medicine meaningful in a changing world, this episode offers both inspiration and practical takeaways. Let’s get into this episode!

Uncharted Team Leads Summit 2025

Step into leadership with confidence and clarity. The Uncharted Team Leads Summit is designed for veterinary supervisors and team leads who want to improve communication, inspire their staff, and handle tough conversations without burning out. In this hands-on, one-day event, you’ll learn how to take control of your role instead of letting it control you, channel team frustrations productively, and even test out new AI tools for everyday practice challenges. With RACE-approved CE, interactive workshops, and a community of peers who get exactly what you’re going through, this summit will help you grow as a leader and build stronger connections. Secure your spot here: https://learn.unchartedvet.com/products/live_events/team-leads-summit-2025

Uncharted Get Sh*t Done: Financial Edition

Does your clinic’s money management need a reset? Join us on October 29, 2025, for Uncharted’s Get Sh*t Done: Financial Edition, a one-day online conference packed with practical strategies to get your practice numbers under control. From inventory management and pricing strategies to setting achievable financial targets, you’ll leave with tools you can put to work immediately. Expert facilitators, small-group discussions, CE credit, and actionable resources make this event the ultimate financial tune-up for busy veterinary leaders. Registration is limited, don’t wait to grab your seat: https://learn.unchartedvet.com/products/live_events/gsd-2025

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Do you have something that you would love Andy and Stephanie to discuss on the podcast? If so, send us a message through the mailbag! Submit it here: unchartedvet.com/mailbag