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The Turn

The Turn

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You've fought hard for your business. Growth was earned, not given. Maybe you've scaled, maybe you've sold— but who have you become in the process? This isn't another podcast obsessing over multiples and deal structure. We get to the heart of what you're actually going through. Hosted by Kory Mitchell, CEO of Iconic Founders, we sit down with blue-collar business owners who've built something real— businesses like HVAC, landscaping, pest control, construction. These are honest conversations about the challenges, the lessons, and the moments that changed everything. Because the real story isn't just how you got here—it's about the lessons along the way. About the Host, Kory Mitchell: Kory Mitchell is the host of The Turn and the founder of Iconic Founders Group. He's lived the founder's journey—building a small regional specialty contracting business with his family into a national ($200m)brand and navigating two transactions, including a 9-figure exit. With 25+ years in the specialty contracting industry, Kory learned how personal and high-stakes the decision to sell can be. Now he guides founder-led companies through legacy-preserving transactions and serves as a board member for several large national specialty trades businesses, bringing an operator's perspective to strategic growth. About Iconic Founders: Iconic Founders Group provides expert guidance for blue-collar industry founders ready to grow and sell their businesses while preserving legacy. We work with founder-led businesses doing $3M–$20M in profit across specialty contracting and trades—including HVAC, plumbing, electrical, landscaping, pest control, roofing, concrete, environmental services, tree services, excavation, asphalt paving, restoration, and more. Whether you're seeking liquidity, finding a partner to scale, or protecting the team and culture that made you great, Kory and the Iconic Team serves as a trusted advisor throughout the entire process—from readiness to strategic buyer alignment, all the way to a proud and well-earned close. Learn more at www.iconicfounders.com. Built Something Great? We Want to Hear Your Story. Whether you're in the thick of scaling, contemplating an exit, or reflecting on lessons learned, we'd love to connect. Visit us at www.iconicfounders.com and subscribe to The Turn wherever you get your podcasts.© Iconic Founders Group 2026 Economía Gestión y Liderazgo Liderazgo
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  • Bryan Carruthers Gave Away Two-Thirds of His Company. Here's Why It Worked.
    Mar 31 2026

    Bryan Carruthers started his first company in the middle of the 2008 financial crisis, right after college. A tiny consulting firm called Consilium. He sold it to a publicly traded business a few years later. Then he went the private equity route—got backing, bought a 15-person shop, and built it into a national $50 million EBITDA business in under five years. Then he sold it to one of the largest consulting firms in the world.


    Most founders are obsessed with ownership percentage. Bryan was obsessed with acceleration. He gave away two-thirds of his first company to partners who knew more than he did. He took 5-10% in a PE-backed roll-up because he knew he could build something bigger, faster. He called it "ignorance as a superpower"—jumping before he knew what he was doing, then bringing in the pieces to make it work. Three exits. Each one bigger than the last. And he never owned more than a third of any of them.


    Running a blue-collar business? Wondering how to think about value or selling? Iconic Founders Group helps founders like you explore what's next. If you're doing over $2M in profit, check us out at iconicfounders.com or send us a message at theturn@iconicfounders.com.

    Iconic Links:
    • Learn More: https://www.iconicfounders.com
    • Connect: theturn@iconicfounders.com
    • Production: Lower Street https://lowerstreet.co

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    30 m
  • Chris Meyer Paid for Materials He Didn't Have Buyers For
    Mar 17 2026

    Chris Meyer didn't stumble into entrepreneurship—he trained for it. Two and a half years at Ernst & Young, 400 business plans reviewed, and a clear list of criteria for what he wanted. In 2006, he found it: a $5-6 million materials company called Mintech that specialized in turning industrial byproducts into construction and environmental solutions. He was 27, had never worked in the industry, and put everything on the line to buy it.


    What happened next sounds insane on paper. Take-or-pay contracts where he paid for materials whether he had buyers or not. Expanding into markets where he had no customers. Signing liabilities before he had revenue. But Chris wasn't gambling—he was calculating. Exclusivity clauses before he signed anything. Relationships with suppliers so deep that when 2008 hit and his suppliers went offline, they worked with him instead of against him. He turned crisis into opportunity, figured out logistics on the fly, and kept his customers whole even when it cost him.

    Sixteen years later, he sold to a strategic partner—a supplier he'd known for over a decade—for $72 million. Majority cash upfront, three-year employment agreement, and a piece of the upside. He and his wife shared part of the exit with the entire team. Now he's reprioritizing: time with family, giving back through the Boys & Girls Club, and staying open to whatever's next.

    Here's what we discuss:

    • Growing up with entrepreneurial parents and learning business at the kitchen table
    • How he reviewed 400 business plans before finding the right one
    • Buying a $5-6M company at 27 with seller financing and bank debt
    • Why he did nothing for the first six months after acquiring the business
    • Take-or-pay contracts: the calculated risk that fueled explosive growth
    • How the 2008 crisis forced him to expand geographically—and why that was a good thing
    • Treating suppliers, carriers, and customers all like customers
    • Building storage infrastructure to smooth out the highs and lows of construction
    • The oil and gas boom and how customers pulled him into new markets
    • The two-to-three year courting process that led to the sale
    • Why he took majority cash instead of rolling equity
    • Sharing the exit with his team—and why it mattered
    • Reprioritizing life after the deal: family, community, and what's next

    Running a blue-collar business? Wondering how to think about value or selling? Iconic Founders Group helps founders like you explore what's next. If you're doing over $2M in profit, check us out at iconicfounders.com or send us a message at theturn@iconicfounders.com.


    Iconic Links:

    Learn More: https://www.iconicfounders.com

    Connect: theturn@iconicfounders.com

    Production: Lower Street https://lowerstreet.co

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    35 m
  • Measure Value, Not Revenue: Tom Heaviland's Story
    Mar 5 2026

    Tom Heaviland bought a one-truck landscape company with his dad in 1985. They each put up $11,000. Thirty-five years later, he sold it to BrightView—the largest player in the industry—for millions. But getting there wasn't linear. He lost his biggest contract overnight when a developer pulled out. His dad died suddenly in 1997. And for seven years, he was stuck splitting everything 50/50 with his stepmom who even didn't work in the business.

    The real turn came when Tom stopped asking "how much can I make?" and started asking "what's this worth?" At 57, he got serious about value—not revenue, not profit, but what a buyer would actually pay. He shut down the construction division. He focused on recurring revenue and high-margin enhancement work. He surrounded himself with the right people and stopped being slow to fire. In five years, the business went from $5 million to $15 million, and margins jumped to the mid-50s.

    Tom closed in November 2019. Four months later, COVID killed his earnout. But he'd already taken his attorney's advice: be happy with the deal you have, because nothing's guaranteed. He's 68 now, still working, still loving it. His one regret? Not measuring value sooner. Those last five years—when he finally got serious—that's when the real money got made.

    Running a blue-collar business? Wondering how to think about value or selling? Iconic Founders Group helps founders like you explore what's next. If you're doing over $2M in profit, check us out at iconicfounders.com or send us a message at theturn@iconicfounders.com.

    Iconic Links:
    Learn More: www.iconicfounders.com
    Connect: theturn@iconicfounders.com
    Production: Lower Street www.lowerstreet.co

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    20 m
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