Artist Rosalie Smith joins the podcast. Smith reflects on developing her unique style. Smith talks about making sculptures with old technology and everyday things. Smith shares her process behind her pieces, and how recent experiences in New York and her education have shaped her approach. Smith discusses balancing the absurd and the serious. Smith describes what it means to create and teach in today’s fast-paced and chaotic world. Smith, Fresh off her MFA at CUNY Hunter, also talks about recent and upcoming exhibitions that mark new chapters in her creative journey.

Topics Covered:

• Blending tech debris and found materials to reimagine survival after collapse
• Infusing sculpture with both humor and weight to address environmental grief
• How working in New York and completing an MFA have influenced Smith’s vision
• Teaching art while developing a personal practice
• Balancing narrative, comedy, and chaos in visual work
• Reflecting on creative growth through education and experimentation

📍 See Rosalie Smith’s work at exhibitions in New York and follow for upcoming shows and projects.

Host: Rob Lee
Music: Original music by Daniel Alexis Music with additional music from Chipzard and TeTresSeis.
Production:

• Produced by Rob Lee & Daniel Alexis
• Edited by Daniel Alexis
• Show Notes courtesy of Rob Lee and Transistor

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Chef & owner of On the Hill Cafe and CookHouse, Chef George Dailey joins the podcast. Dailey is originally from Venezuela. He started his cooking career in Boston, then moved to Baltimore and opened On the Hill Cafe in 2005. In this conversation, Dailey shares his passion for global flavors, seasonal menus, and the art of hospitality. Dailey reflects on building two beloved Baltimore spots. Dailey shares his hands-on approach that ensures quality and consistency. Dailey reveals how he crafts inventive menus inspired by what he loves to eat and what makes the community happy. Dailey also shares how being present in every detail keeps his restaurants thriving after decades.

Topics Covered:

• The journey of sustaining On the Hill Cafe for over 20 years and launching CookHouse
• Menu development: balancing classics, creativity, and customer cravings
• The value of local, seasonal ingredients and adapting to change
• Dailey’s commitment to being in the kitchen and why that matters
• Building community and memorable experiences through food

📍 Find On the Hill Cafe and CookHouse in Baltimore’s Bolton Hill, and discover their menus online or on social media.

Host: Rob Lee
Music: Original music by Daniel Alexis Music with additional music from Chipzard and TeTresSeis.
Production:

• Produced by Rob Lee & Daniel Alexis
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Chef & co-owner of The Corner Pantry (TCP), Neill Howell returns to the podcast to talk growth, creativity, and keeping standards high.

Howell & TCP has expanded the cafe and deepened their commitment to local sourcing. Howell shares his philosophy behind TCP's menu and how to build community through food. Also, Howell discusses how evolving, being creative and has kept the business successful for 11+ years.

Topics Covered:

• How Corner Pantry expanded while keeping its identity intact
• The creative challenge of seasonal, local sourcing
• Catering as a creative and financial engine
• Why restaurant work is more than food—it’s relationships
• Staying relevant through change, quality, and experimentation

🎧 Listen to Neill Howell’s first episode in our archive for more on his culinary roots and vision. 📍 Corner Pantry Website: https://cornerpantrybaltimore.com

Host: Rob Lee
Music: Original music by Daniel Alexis Music with additional music from Chipzard and TeTresSeis.
Production:

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Henry Hyde—artisan and owner of Hyde Handmade Knives—returns to talk craft, community, and creating work that resonates. Hyde is an artisan known for his kitchen knives and meticulous approach to materials. In the episode, Hyde reflects on the evolution of his process, from isolating early days to searching for real connection at craft shows. Also, Hyde discusses the realities of working alone and why iteration beats perfectionism.

• Navigating solitude and the creative process
• Choosing craftsmanship over mass attention
• Embracing feedback at markets and in person
• Letting go of perfectionism and releasing finished work
• The balance between woodworking, tinkering, and knife making

🔪 Discover how Hyde's handcrafted tools reflect both his roots in Maryland and his belief that artistry is in its making. 🎧 Revisit Henry's first episode from 2022 for more context on his powerful comic-based series.

Host: Rob Lee
Music: Original music by Daniel Alexis Music with additional music from Chipzard and TeTresSeis.
Production:

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Artist and professor Kumasi J. Barnett returns to the podcast to talk art, protest, and making work that cuts through the noise.

Known for subverting comic books through introspective reinterpretations, Barnett reflects his work today. Barnett shares the realities of being a Black painter, creating in the shadow of systemic erasure, and why some truths hit harder in spandex.

Topic Covered:

• Why painting is the easy part—but being an artist is not
• Rewriting comic canon to reflect modern injustice
• Teaching art, parenting, and painting as a long game
• Why selling out isn't the flex many think it is
• What he’s planning next (spoiler: it's political)

🎧 Revisit Kumasi’s first episode from 2022 for more context on his powerful comic-based series.

Host: Rob Lee
Music: Original music by Daniel Alexis Music with additional music from Chipzard and TeTresSeis.
Production:

• Produced by Rob Lee & Daniel Alexis
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Multidisciplinary artist, researcher, and educator Joseph Cochran II returns to The Truth In This Art. A native New Yorker, Cochran practice spans photography, video, and archival work, with NYC baked in. Cochran examines the emotional cost of late capitalism in industrialized societies.

In this conversation:

Cochran discusses living and working in China, rebuilding after loss, and how his identity shapes how he moves through the world. He reflects on balancing financial survival with creative ethics. He also discusses staying connected to his communities and the emotional weight in his work.

This is a candid, witty conversation about legacy, creative freedom, and staying grounded.

Topics include:

• Learning to live without depending on art to make a living—and why that helped his practice
• Why staying connected to the streets isn’t about authenticity, but accountability
• The power of memory in his photographs—and why he remembers every shot
• Thoughts on working in Shanghai, Brussels, and the Balkans while staying rooted in NYC
• Upcoming exhibition Public Work opening July 10 in New York

🎧 Want more? Check out Joseph Cochran II’s first interview in the archive—where we talk about the early days of his work and life abroad.

Host: Rob Lee
Music: Original music by Daniel Alexis Music with additional music from Chipzard and TeTresSeis.
Production:

• Produced by Rob Lee & Daniel Alexis
• Edited by Daniel Alexis
• Show Notes courtesy of Rob Lee and Transistor

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Artist and provocateur Brian Andrew Whiteley joins The Truth In This Art . Whiteley is known for his politically charged work including the infamous Trump Tombstone.

Whiteley reflects on his work including creepy clown performances. He shares how comics sparked his creative journey. Whiteley discusses why art that provokes discomfort can often spark the deepest conversations. Whiteley gets real about the legal and emotional fallout from controversial projects. Later, Whiteley shares what it means to stay committed to an experimental work, and Satellite Art Show's importance to artists.

This is an honest, funny, and layered dialogue about creative risk, censorship, and what it takes to build something outside the system.

Topics include:

• The story behind the Trump Tombstone—and how it led to a Secret Service investigation
• Why embracing absurdity became central to his practice
• Building Satellite Art Show as a true artist-first platform
• Learning to push past legal threats and backlash to stay true to his ideas
• Why success isn’t about sales—it’s about freedom and community

🎧 Want more? Explore the Satellite Art Show at satellite-show.com or follow Brian Andrew Whiteley on Instagram.

Host: Rob Lee
Music: Original music by Daniel Alexis Music with additional music from Chipzard and TeTresSeis.
Production:

• Produced by Rob Lee & Daniel Alexis
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• Show Notes courtesy of Rob Lee and Transistor

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Interdisciplinary artist and activist Sheryl Oring returns to The Truth In This Art!

Oring shares updates on I Wish to Say. "I Wish to Say" is her long-running public art project. For decades, thousands of people have dictated postcards to the U.S. president for this project. It started with just one typewriter. Now, it's a growing collection of public records. It helps fight censorship and shares stories from people rarely heard.

Sheryl had a hard year after her school, University of the Arts, closed. This conversation looks at how that loss, plus listening and old papers, shaped her newest art.

Topics Covered:

• Fighting censorship: She was the first artist on the board of the National Coalition Against Censorship.
• Typing on tour: She gathered messages from parks, libraries, and schools during an election year.
• Archiving 5,000+ typewritten postcards and the invisible labor of cultural memory
• Post-UArts Philadelphia: navigating grief, disillusionment, and artistic renewal after institutional collapse
• Fear and self-censorship among immigrants, youth, and marginalized communities
• Libraries as sanctuary: preserving democratic space as book bans and closures escalate
• Art as care: on fermenting, gardening, and rituals that ground a life in transition

Sheryl first appeared on The Truth in This Art in 2023—listen to that conversation here.

This episode was recorded during a season that looked at archives, resilience, and artists who work in public spaces.

Host: Rob Lee
Music: Original music by Daniel Alexis Music with additional music from Chipzard and TeTresSeis.
Production:

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