Should juries be scrapped? In this special bonus episode Caroline and Liz investigate leaked plans from the justice secretary to abolish jury trials for the majority of cases. It would be a fundamental change to our justice system. And it’s not gone down well.

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In this episode Caroline and Liz have the reason football fans were knocked down “like skittles” by a former marine. It was road rage. Paul Doyle was driving through the city as dozens of people celebrated Liverpool FCs League title, but he grew agitated that families wouldn’t get out of his way and he ploughed into them in his Ford Galaxy. Today as he dramatically changed his pleas to guilty we have all the details from the court.

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Guilty of harassment but Not Guilty of stalking. That’s the jury’s verdict today on Julia Wandelt’s “relentless” pursuit of the parents of Madeleine McCann. It means she could soon be released from prison and likely deported back to Poland. In this episode Caroline and Claire have all the reactions from the court, including how the McCanns said they hoped she can now get the care and support she needs. Plus we have an interview with Julia Wandelt’s father who told us how damaged she was after she was abused by her step-grandfather and he feels - like the McCanns - that he has also lost his daughter.

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Today Caroline and Claire have the moment the police investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann was accused of being in a state of “almost inertia”. The barrister for Karen Spragg said Julia Wandelt was treated like a “nutter” by the police when she said she might be Madeleine McCann, and they should have taken her DNA sooner. The jury were also told that people who were concerned about Madeleine’s abduction were not all “crack pots”.

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In this episode Julia Wandelt accuses Gerry McCann of being involved in the abduction of his daughter Madeleine. She also says he has silenced his wife Kate and she claims officers from The Met may also have threatened her. She said she feels vulnerable since telling her story because people “don’t want the truth to come out.” But, in the final day of her giving evidence, she was accused of fabricating evidence and of creating a charade.

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In this episode Caroline and Claire have the words of Julia Wandelt as she gave evidence for the first time in her defence. She told the jury she wouldn’t have pursued the McCanns if they’d just done a DNA test. It’s also now emerged she was being advised on her media strategy by a publicist in the UK and a Psychic in the US.

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It's been a while since Caroline & Liz had time to catch up and say hello to you all, and with the launch of our exciting new Crime Desk newsletter, thought now was as good a time as any!

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In this episode we have the words of the two women on trial. Julia Wandelt told police she was the victim and Karen Spragg accused the McCanns of organising the abduction of their daughter Madeleine. She also said she wasn’t a nasty person.

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