
23. The Risk & Reward of Radical Worship Lyrics
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In this episode, Ali McFarlane and her long-time co-writer and friend Katie Rios pull back the curtain on what it really means to write with the prophets — and the rebels. They share the raw, behind-the-scenes story of how their unlikely partnership started through a random online challenge, the cost and joy of writing songs that push boundaries, and why radical, “spicy” lyrics often carry the voice of God for a season.
You’ll hear stories of songs like Holy One of Israel and Show Me Your Glory that broke the mold — and how trust, deep relationship, and a willingness to wrestle for truth make the difference between a safe song and a dangerous one that actually moves people.
Guests:
Ali McFarlane
Katie Rios
Key Themes:
How Ali & Katie’s partnership started from a Facebook ad and a prophetic word
Writing worship songs for a prophetic house vs. a pastoral house
How radical lyrics like “robe dipped in blood” unlock fresh sounds for the prophets
Why good relationship is foundational for wrestling over risky lyrics
How trust allows co-writers to craft songs that are both bold and biblically anchored
Blessing and prayer for songwriters to find true community and courage
Mentioned Songs:
Holy One of Israel
Show Me Your Glory
Burn Us Alive