What does it take to change a system that feels stuck? Trevor Hartley says you don’t start at the bottom—you start from the top of the mountain, looking down. That’s the power of foresight: leading from the future back into the present.

In this conversation, Trevor shares unforgettable images—from “robbing the grave” of untapped potential, to confronting the “cat fur” of fear that paralyzes our ability to play, imagine, and learn. His project Re:Story Together is a living experiment in South Africa, but his insights speak to anyone who wants to replace despair with hope and unlock hidden genius in the next generation.

If you’ve ever wondered how to bring change to a place that feels soul-killing, Trevor’s story will remind you: resilience isn’t just about bouncing back—it’s about reframing destiny.

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Every leader eventually meets a “Debra”—the teammate who delivers results but creates drama and leaves a trail of frustrated team members in her wake. She’s smart, capable, maybe even indispensable. But her behavior slowly erodes trust, morale, and momentum.

In this episode of The Resilience Lab, Rex Miller unpacks a real story of a leader wrestling with a Debra on his team. You’ll hear how toxic talent hides behind competence, why managers struggle to confront it, and what really happens when behavior issues go unaddressed.

If you’ve ever felt trapped between protecting performance and preserving culture, this episode will show you why ignoring a Debra isn’t an option—and how naming the problem is the first step toward resilience.

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What does it truly mean to design your life—not just your workspace? In this episode of The Resilience Lab, Rex Miller chats with Dianne Kimiko, founder of Kimiko Designs and Kimiko Green, on the deck of the Tarkett showroom during NeoCon Design Days—Chicago trains rumbling by in the background.

Dianne’s journey takes us from choosing furniture over funeral homes early in her career to building a design practice grounded in curiosity, sustainability, and resilience. She explains how asking “why” can transform projects, how saying “no” became one of her most powerful leadership tools, and why 17 billion pounds of office furniture ending up in landfills annually is both a challenge and an opportunity.

Whether you’re reevaluating your career, your workplace, or how to make more sustainable choices, Dianne’s perspective will open your eyes to what’s possible when design goes beyond spaces to shape the way we live and lead.

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