00:00 Emily and Edmund kick off the episode by introducing the sixth and seventh petitions: “Lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil”. They explore how modern generations oscillate between moral relativism and hyper-vigilance about right and wrong, despite many still praying regularly. This sets the stage for examining how the Catechism helps us discern objective morality amid today’s shifting cultural views.

08:08 Edmund and Emily show how over-intellectualizing the Faith led to two extremes, either thinking we can resist temptation on our own (Pelagianism) or feeling powerless without special election (Jansenism). These often show up today as indifference or scrupulosity. They unpack the Greek roots of “lead us not into temptation,” noting it means both “don’t let us enter” and “don’t let us yield,” and encourage praying for God’s help to trust His will and avoid yielding to temptation.

15:46 Edmund and Emily emphasize that temptation isn’t sinful, only yielding to it is. They encourage humility and reliance on God’s grace instead of shame. Using everyday examples like marital frustrations over an unloaded dishwasher, they show how praying for virtues (e.g., patience) can help in the midst of temptation. They highlight the Catechism’s wisdom on discernment, distinguishing growth-forming trials from temptations that lead to sin and discuss the importance of avoiding both indifference and scrupulosity.

22:15 Edmund and Emily illustrate how charity and community can justly take precedence over strict observance, reminding us that relationship trumps anxious rule-keeping. They stress discernment in distinguishing between trials and temptations. The motto: “rules without relationship lead to rebellion,” highlights the heart’s posture in prayer.

28:05 Edmund and Emily wrap up with practical tips for catechists: integrate the Ten Commandments into prayer by guiding an examination of conscience that moves beyond a checklist to a heartfelt dialogue with God. They stress honest, heart-level prayer and bringing specific struggles before Jesus, asking for grace so that doctrine informs our lived encounter, not just intellectual assent.

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In this episode of the Real+True Podcast, hosts Edmund Mitchell and Emily Mentock dive into the complexities of forgiveness as reflected in the Lord's Prayer. They discuss the importance of understanding the catechism's teachings on forgiveness, exploring common myths and misconceptions of mercy. The conversation includes practical advice for implementing forgiveness in daily life and how to understand forgiveness in relation to reconciliation.

(00:00) Edmund and Emily introduce the episode, focused on the petition "Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us" from the Lord's Prayer. They discuss how this short but powerful petition invites deep reflection on common misconceptions around forgiveness.

(10:25) Edmund and Emily debunk the idea that forgiveness is just an emotional release, using neuroscience to show how it reshapes our brain’s response to anger and resentment. They clarify that true forgiveness doesn’t excuse wrongdoing but extends honest mercy while upholding justice.

(17:50) Edmund and Emily explain that forgiveness doesn’t excuse the wrong or erase the memory, but frees our hearts by letting go of demands on the offender. They note that reconciliation is valuable but only possible when both parties choose it.

(28:19) Edmund and Emily explore how forgiveness and reconciliation can diverge, noting that while full restoration isn’t always possible, we’re called to discern when to pursue peace and when to set healthy boundaries. They illustrate how “willing the good” of others—whether in marriages or teen friendships—lets us extend mercy even when relationships change.

(39:10) Edmund and Emily show that accepting mercy is strength, not weakness, and invite the prayer “Jesus, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.” They close with a “forgiveness examine,” using Gospel truths and Ignatian visualization to lay resentments on the cross and embrace God’s healing.

(49:14) Edmund and Emily close by describing a powerful Ignatian-style meditation of visualizing your hurts placed on the cross and transformed by Christ. They encourage listeners to engage mind, heart, and the senses in prayer to unblock forgiveness and receive God’s mercy. Finally, they invite everyone to revisit earlier Catechism teachings on reconciliation and join them online at realtrue.org to continue exploring the faith.

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In this episode of The Real+True Podcast, co-hosts Emily Mentock and Edmund Mitchell unpack the meaning and significance of the petition 'Give us this day our daily bread' from the Lord's Prayer. They explore its implications for personal spiritual growth and trust in God's provision. They discuss common experiences of unanswered prayers and the importance of having faith in God's plan. They also highlight practical tips, including journaling prayers and fostering a missionary spirit of trust in God's generosity, are shared. Listeners are encouraged to bring their petitions to God with trust and to act as intercessors for others.

(00:00) Emily and Edmund introduce the episode topic, focusing on the Lord’s Prayer and highlighting the relevance of its petitions in modern life. This episode covers specifically the petition “ introducing intercessory prayer as a key topic of this episode.

(06:48) Edmund discusses how the "Lord’s Prayer" reminds us of community and intercession. Prayer isn't solely individual; it's communal, involving praying for others' needs. Emily affirms this point by referencing the Catechism, emphasizing intercessory prayer as central to Christian solidarity and collective spirituality.

(12:13) Edmund emphasizes practical prayer as integral to discipleship, exploring how believers handle requesting things from God and understanding unanswered prayers. The conversation stresses the need for realistic approaches to prayer that bridge the gap between spiritual expectations and everyday life challenges, encouraging practical faith expressions.

(15:19) Emily explores the challenge of genuinely trusting in God's will while avoiding prematurely accepting suffering without expectation. She encourages believers to maintain real faith that God will answer prayers meaningfully, underscoring reliance on divine provision rather than passive resignation to circumstances.

(22:23) Emily explains the concept of intercessory prayer teams, highlighting the Archdiocese of Detroit's initiatives. She describes these groups as spiritually gifted individuals specifically commissioned to pray for pastoral renewal and evangelization. The discussion underscores the transformative role such dedicated prayer teams have within church communities.

(34:52) Edmund illustrates the dynamic of prayer through the relatable metaphor of a child persistently asking a parent for treats. He reflects on the difficulty believers often face applying this familiar parental dynamic to their relationship with God, urging listeners to embrace authentic childlike trust and persistent communication with the Father.

(36:03) Emily concludes by encouraging listeners to revisit relevant Catechism sections and reflect deeply on the Lord's Prayer during personal and communal prayer, especially at Mass. She invites listeners to internalize the petitions' meanings and consider how they practically apply in their daily spiritual lives.

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