The episode of 'The New Abnormal' podcast featured Riel Miller, who for over forty years has been co-creating innovation, leadership and transformation in both the public and private sectors around the world.

He pioneered the 'discipline of anticipation' as one of the leading tools for engaging in both research and capacity building around futures literacy, and is a highly experienced designer of processes for thinking about the future.

Riel is currently working with universities, governments, companies, and think tanks from around the world to introduce an anticipatory systems and processes approach to understanding the attributes and role of the future. He has been appointed a Senior Fellow at: Ecole des Ponts Business School (France); U. New Brunswick (Canada); NIFU (Norway); U. Witwatersrand (South Africa); Future Africa at U. Pretoria (South Africa), and East China Normal U. (China).

He was formerly Head of Foresight and Futures Literacy at UNESCO in Paris, from 2012-2022. In 1995 he joined the OECD in Paris to work in the International Futures Programme. In 2005 he founded an independent consultancy – xperidox (which means knowledge through experience) to advise clients on how to use the future more effectively .

Riel specialises in bringing decision makers to question the assumptions underlying current choices and exploring the potential of the present. Specific sectors inc: The future of money / Future of Schooling and Universities / Future of Cyberspace / Future of Technology / and Future of Governance.

So, we discuss the above in what I hope you'll agree is a fascinating interview!

This episode of 'The New Abnormal' podcast features Jost Wagner, Managing Director of The Change Initiative and Executive Director of the Asia-Pacific Futures Network, the largest network of futurists in the region.

Over the last 20 years, he's designed and facilitated over 600 workshops and conferences worldwide for organisations such as the Asian Development Bank, United Nations, World Bank, USAID, GTZ (now GIZ), DFAT, five German political foundations, a number of international NGOs such as Oxfam, Plan, WWF, etc.

In this interview, we discuss all of the above, along with his latest article for Compass magazine c/o the Association for Professional Futurists, where he writes about his belief in the urgent need for long-term thinking and action - to counter the futures-thieves that rob others (especially future generations or marginalised groups) of the opportunity to shape or benefit from desirable futures...

This episode of 'The New Abnormal' podcast features Jan Berger, who advises business leaders on how to steer their companies towards a profitable future. He's the Founder & CEO of the renowned Themis Foresight in Berlin, which he founded to anticipate the economic, technological, social and political drivers of future change.

The team at Themis are driven by the conviction that outstanding futures research is the crucial key to success for the strategic direction of Europe's economic and entrepreneurial elite. They bring the results of this research to corporate clients via foresight, scenarios, roadmaps, and strategic design.

Jan is also President of the World Futures Studies Federation, the independent global peak body for Futures Studies Scholarship, an NGO and UNESCO partner founded in 1973. It operates as a global network of practicing futurists, including researchers, teachers, scholars, policy analysts, activists and others from approximately 60 countries.

In our conversation, we discuss all of the above, during which Jan also covers a fascinating and incredibly ambitious initiative in which he's currently involved: 'The Industrial Renaissance Project'.

So, I hope you enjoy listening to his viewpoints as much as I did!