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  • Craig Havighurst - Listening Is a Creative Act | MCP #311
    Dec 18 2025
    There’s a moment in this conversation with Craig Havighurst where it clicked for me that we weren’t really talking about music anymore — at least not just music. We were talking about attention. About empathy. About what it means to show up for something that doesn’t immediately flatter us or, at least, ask very little of us.Craig has spent decades thinking about American music from every angle — as a musician, a journalist, a radio host, and now as the author of Musicality for Modern Humans. In this episode, we talk about why America has produced the richest musical culture the world has ever known… and why we’ve simultaneously trained ourselves to listen to less and less of it. Algorithms, convenience, declining music education — all of it plays a role. But none of it lets us off the hook.What I found most helpful — and honestly, most challenging — was Craig’s insistence that listening is not passive. That to really listen is to be vulnerable. To risk being confused. To sit with something long enough for it to change you. We get into jazz, classical music, jam bands, bluegrass, and pop — not to rank them, but to understand what each offers us as listeners and as humans.This is the kind of conversation that reminds me why The Morse Code Podcast exists in the first place. Creativity doesn’t only belong to the people onstage or in the studio. It belongs to anyone willing to participate — by making something, by paying attention, by supporting the artists who are trying to move culture forward instead of backward. I think this episode will help you listen differently. Maybe live a little differently too.If you’d rather experience this conversation visually, the full episode of The Morse Code Podcast with Craig Havighurst is available on YouTube.→ Watch the episode hereBehind the paywallBelow the paywall, I share a personal reflection on this conversation — and a small confession.At the heart of The Morse Code Podcast (and really, everything I make) is a desire to encourage people to let art play a more active role in their lives. Not as content. Not as background noise. But as something that makes us feel more awake, more alive, a little less numbed out by the world.Talking with Craig challenged me in ways I didn’t expect. Even as a working musician — someone who knows the theory, hears the chords, and listens “like a pro” — I realized how often I don’t let myself fully experience the music. How often listening turns into work. How easy it is to lose the mystery.There was a moment during the taping where something cracked open. Call this a firsthand account of what art can still do when we give it our full attention. Hoping for more moments like that — and wanted to share why this one mattered.I make the Morse Code Podcast every week and write here because I believe this work—these conversations, this city, this way of paying attention—matters. Paid subscriptions help cover production costs and keep the project sustainable. If you read regularly and haven’t subscribed yet, that’s the way to support it.Joy Fatigue and the Return of MysteryBasic to my intention — with this podcast, with the Morse Code project generally, and even in my actual writing and music — is my desire to encourage and inspire people to make art a part of their own lives. Sometimes that takes the form of me breaking down a piano arrangement for a Gillian Welch song, or just sharing a meaningful family moment with as much detail as I can. The underlying intention is pretty simple. I want people to feel more alive. I want to bring some kind of encouraging spirit to a world that can be cold and mean and worst of all, boring.It was obvious talking to Craig that he shares a version of that desire. Early on in Musicality for Modern Humans he makes a claim that it’s musicians that listen most intently to music. For Craig the guys you see at the club, nodding along with fixed stares and arms crossed— those guys are the gold standard. Craig wants you to listen with that same intensity, background knowledge, technical finesse — and he has some practical ideas on how to increase your sensitivity to music’s deeper pleasures.So yay I’m a musician who listens with some of the active ingredients Craig wants to put in everyone’s gigbag. But coming off this taping, I realized something serious: I have a lot to learn. First, a caveat: I probably do listen with more active attention than, say, your average Swifty. I mean, ever since I was exposed to the circle of fifths (and its more practical cousin, the Nashville number system), I can’t hear a song without automatically clocking its chord progression. For most of the songs you and I listen to, that’s not very hard. Still, I suppose that puts me more in the green room than the mezzanine.But I’m here to tell you: I don’t listen to nearly as much music as I should.Why is that?A couple reasons come to mind, one obvious, one ...
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  • How to See a Person: Stacie Huckeba on Todd Snider, Art, and Staying True | MCP #310
    Dec 11 2025

    I think one of the reasons I started this podcast was to talk to people like Stacie Huckeba.

    If you’ve been around the East Nashville creative scene for any length of time, you’ve seen her work — photos of Dolly Parton, Todd Snider, Elizabeth Cook, Jason Isbell, and countless others. What you may not know is that Stacie came into this line of work late, without a road map, and made a career out of instinct, trust, and relentless follow-through. And maybe the bigger surprise? Her photographs were just the start. She’s a storyteller, full stop — and in this episode, she shares some absolute gems.

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    We talked about the psychology of Todd — how he saw the world, how he needed to be seen, and how that understanding shaped their friendship. There’s a story about a backyard full of geese that’s as funny as it is heartbreaking, and there’s a moment toward the end — when she describes him waving at no one in particular — that might be the most tender thing I’ve heard anyone say about him.

    If you can, watch this one on YouTube. Stacie brought a collection of never-before-seen photos from her archive, and the conversation hits different when you can see the moments she captured. That said, the stories are the real point — and if you’re just listening, you’re still in for something special. Toward the end, we shift gears and talk about what it’s like to build a creative life from scratch — without a pedigree or a plan. If you’ve ever felt like it was too late to start, or like you didn’t quite have the right credentials, Stacie’s story might change your mind. It definitely made me feel braver.

    ~ Korby



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  • Allen Thompson: The Wisdom of Winding Roads
    Dec 4 2025

    Allen Thompson joins Korby Lenker on The Morse Code Podcast for a conversation about the winding road of making music on your own terms. The two talk about Allen’s early years in East Nashville, the late great Todd Snider’s lasting influence, and what it takes to stay true to yourself as an artist—even when it doesn’t pay. The episode closes with a soulful live performance of “Foolish and Blue,” recorded in-studio with trumpeter Ben Klassen.



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  • Aaron Lee Tasjan on Risk, Reinvention, and Making Space for Joy | MCP #308
    Nov 20 2025

    On this week’s episode of The Morse Code Podcast, host Korby Lenker sits down with genre-bending songwriter Aaron Lee Tasjan for a wide-ranging conversation about art, identity, and staying weird in a world that wants to put you in a box.

    They talk about the challenges of navigating the music industry without losing your creative center, the unexpected gift of not fitting in, and how authenticity — even when it’s messy — can be a source of power. Aaron opens up about his journey from sideman to solo artist, how he’s learned to protect his inner world, and what it means to build a career on your own terms.

    Stick around to the end for a stripped-down performance of Aaron’s song “E.N.S.A.A.T.” — a reminder that the real stuff is often what we try hardest to hide.



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  • Jessica Willis Fisher: The Courage to Begin Again | MCP #307
    Nov 13 2025

    I didn’t know much about Jessica Willis Fisher before she came over to the studio. I knew she was part of the family band The Willis Clan, and I knew something bad had happened — but I didn’t know the shape of it. Or what she’d done with the pieces.

    Turns out, she’s one of the most quietly courageous people I’ve ever sat across from.

    In this episode of The Morse Code Podcast, Jessica and I talk about the long road from silence to self-expression — how writing became a lifeline, and how songwriting helped her reclaim her identity on her own terms. We talk about trauma, yes, but more importantly, we talk about what comes after: the craft, the healing, the stubborn hope of making something meaningful out of the mess.

    It’s a conversation about boundaries and bravery — about telling the truth even when it’s costly. I think anyone who’s ever started over (creatively, emotionally, spiritually) will find something to hold onto here.

    Stick around till the end of the episode for a live in-studio performance of her song “Seeds.” It’s spare and luminous and all the more powerful for what it doesn’t say. You can also watch the performance as a standalone video if you want to send it to someone who needs it.

    ~Korby

    MORSE CODE (our award-winning 30 minute pilot) is now live! thanks for 8k views in 3 days, and many glowing comments, and a few hateful ones! This is the project that launched all the stuff I’ve been doing for the last several years.



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  • Ryan Montbleau: The Gig is the Goal MCP #306
    Nov 7 2025

    One thing I’ve noticed about lifers — artists who stay in the game past the shiny early years — is that they tend to carry this quiet steadiness. Northeat based singer-songwriter and band leader Ryan Montbleau is one of those people. He’s been making music professionally for over two decades, without a label, without a gimmick, and without (as he puts it) a real “backup plan.” Just the work, the gig, the voice.

    We taped this conversation in the back studio at Ranch Vovo, and to be honest it felt less like an interview and more like a hang between two people who’ve made a lot of questionable decisions in service of something that still feels worth it. We talked about what it means to be an artist when your twenties are far behind you, when you’re still chasing something real but with less ego and more gratitude. Ryan talked about teaching at his old high school by day and playing bar gigs at night — how even though the money was trash and the schedule was brutal, something was happening. He was getting better.

    Spotify and streaming has been overwhelmingly positive for me and my career and my life — game-changing level of like I don’t have to tour my face off forever. Part of it is I own my records. Part of it is I’ve built up a grassroots following of listeners over 25 years of doing it. And also, yeah, some luck — I got on some playlists. But Spotify was pretty good at giving people what they want to hear.— Ryan Montbleau

    There’s a line in the episode where he says, “The gig is the goal.” That stuck with me. Not the press, not the playlist, not the viral moment. The gig. The thing itself. That’s the part I always come back to — the reason we make this podcast, and the reason I think you listen: to stay connected to the part of you that creates, that supports, that believes in art as an ordinary act of faith.

    Stick around till the end of the episode, because Ryan plays a gorgeous acoustic version of his song “Bright Side.” It’s tender and grounded and exactly the kind of reminder I needed this week. You can also watch the performance as a standalone video if you want to share it with someone who needs it.

    P.S. we’re finally making MORSE CODE — the short film that started all of this — available to the public! Join us for the official premiere this Sunday at 4pm central. Click the embed below 👇 and watch the 1 minute trailer. and while you’re there click the the bell and you’ll get a reminder when it drops. I’ll be in the chat. You can of course, watch it whenever you want after Sunday, I just won’t be there.

    Still so proud of this film we all made and — now that I’m a dad in real life — the story feels more relevant than ever. See you Sunday.

    ~ Korby



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  • Liam St. John: Sing Like It’s the Last Thing You’ll Ever Do | MCP #305
    Oct 30 2025

    There’s a kind of artist who gets better the more they get broken open. Who wears the hard stuff — the heartbreak, the hangups, the spiritual confusion — like a second layer of skin. Liam St. John is one of those artists.

    You may have come across him recently via his viral single Dipped in Bleach, or maybe from his powerhouse audition on The Voice a few years back. But if you’re just tuning in now, you’re catching Liam right as things are starting to click. His sound has always been somewhere between blues and gospel and folk — but in the last year, it feels like he’s finally tapped the root system. There’s clarity now. Depth.

    In one of the most candid conversations we’ve ever had on the pod, Liam and I talk about the long road to that kind of creative honesty — how he clawed his way through church trauma and a brutal divorce, how he almost walked away from music entirely, and how it wasn’t until he let go of “trying” that things actually started to move. It’s a story about surrender, but also about staying in the game long enough to make something real. And for anyone who’s in that weird in-between space — unsure of the path, but unwilling to settle — I think this one will resonate.

    Near the end of the episode, Liam plays a stripped-down version of his song “Stick to Your Guns” — and I promise, it’s worth sticking around for. No frills, no edits — just a man, a voice, and a crazy story behind it.

    ~Korby

    Big announcement coming Sunday. 👤

    🎵 Watch Liam’s live performance of “Stick to Your Guns” 👇



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  • Judy Blank: Make Your Own Break | MCP #304
    Oct 23 2025

    There’s something I love about artists who don’t wait for permission. The ones who carry a crowbar so they can pry the tiny crack into a opening big enough to strut though. Judy Blank is one of those crowbar carryin types.

    Her latest ablum, “Big Mood” came out on tastemaker label Rounder Records this September.

    She grew up in the Netherlands, obsessed with American music — gospel, folk, Laurel Canyon, Springsteen. Instead of treating that dream like a fantasy, she followed it. First a trip to the States. Then a show. Then another. One small door opened, she walked through, and another one opened after that. Eventually, she found herself signed to Rounder Records and living in Nashville — not because someone chose her, but because she kept showing up.

    This week on The Morse Code Podcast, Judy and I talk about the slow-building path to a creative life. No big break, no silver bullet — just persistence, a willingness to reinvent, and a deep love for the craft itself. We talk about self-doubt, staying honest in a culture obsessed with branding, and what happens when you follow the thread of your own taste, even if it takes years.

    It’s a conversation about saying yes — not to a label or a gatekeeper — but to yourself.

    At the end of the episode, Judy performs a stripped-down version of her haunting, beautiful song Fading Star — which you can also watch as a stand-alone video. The song is a gut-punch, and I think you’ll be glad you stuck around to hear it.

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    Next week’s guest is one of my favorite episodes we’ve ever taped, Liam St John. Do not miss it. And if you didn’t catch our last episode with walking controversy Sloe Jack, find a short clip below.

    In personal musical news I’ve been spending my free time working on piano version of Gillian Welch’s “Hashtag”. There are a couple great non-diatonic chords in there that sound perfect on guitar but getting them to not land janky in a piano setting, is tricky. Results forthcoming.

    ~k



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