What if the greatest opportunities for sharing the Gospel are found where the opposition is strongest? In this episode of The Missional Leader, Rob talks with Dr. Barry Corey, president of Biola University and a leading voice in Christian higher education. For almost two decades, Dr. Corey has led through the challenges of culture, politics, and faith in the heart of Southern California, one of the most progressive areas in the United States.—

From his New England roots to leading in California’s shifting cultural landscape, Dr. Corey , shares vulnerably about the burdens and breakthroughs of leadership, and what it means to stay grounded in biblical truth while boldly engaging today’s world.

Resources mentioned in this episode:

Biola University: https://www.biola.edu/

Washington Post Op-Ed: "We first battled over LGBT and religious rights. Here’s how we became friends." by Barry Corey and Evan Low: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2017/03/03/we-first-battled-over-lgbt-and-religious-rights-heres-how-we-became-unlikely-friends/

Doritos Super Bowl commercial made by Biola film students:
https://www.biola.edu/blogs/biola-news/2025/biola-alumni-on-their-way-to-crash-the-super-bowl

OneHope Research - Gen Alpha
https://onehope.net/global-outreach/research/

CHAPTERS:
00:00 Trusting God’s Tailwinds in Leadership
01:12 The Life-Changing Bob Cooley Mentorship
02:28 Necessary: Flourishing Under the Weight of Leadership
03:50 Surviving and Thriving in Challenging Higher Ed Climates
05:32 Leading Christian Education in Progressive California
07:48 God’s Tailwinds vs. Cultural Headwinds
09:49 Building Unexpected Friendships Across Ideological Divides
12:48 Listening to Learn, Not Just to Respond
15:19 Firm Center, Soft Edges: Biola’s Approach to Controversy
17:39 Balancing Truth and Grace in University Culture
20:13 Excellence as Apologetics: Biola’s Award-Winning Doritos Story
22:35 Avoiding the Culture War Mentality
24:00 Ensuring Deep Biblical Foundations for Students
25:55 Hopeful Signs and Concerns for the Next Generation
28:46 Lessons from Europe’s “Quiet Revival”
30:14 Challenging Churches to Deepen Discipleship for Gen Z

Dr. Amy Orr-Ewing—Oxford-trained theologian and leading Christian apologist—is captivating Gen Z by combining deep biblical theology with with a disarming, whimsical love for people.

In this episode of The Missional Leader, Amy shares her remarkable journey from atheistic family roots to a transformative encounter with Jesus, and how that awakening propelled her to engage the toughest questions at the world’s leading universities. Together with Rob, she explores how the church can faithfully respond to a generation grappling with anxiety, identity, and a hunger for truth. With clarity and compassion, Amy models a trinitarian, Spirit-empowered approach to apologetics that wins both hearts and minds — one that values persuasion over pride and empathy over ego.

Resources mentioned in this episode:

OneHope Research - Gen Alpha and Gen Z:
https://onehope.net/global-outreach/research

Feed - Core Questions Devotional:
https://feed.bible/core-questions

"The Quiet Revival" Research Report, Bible Society:
https://theresource.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/The-Quiet-Revival.pdf

CHAPTERS:
00:00 Persuading Heart and Mind: Pascal’s Approach to Apologetics
02:55 Childhood Atheism to Apologist: Amy’s Unlikely Journey
04:04 Supernatural Encounter: Early Experience with Healing
07:53 Oxford Ultimatum: Career or Christ?
09:39 The Hidden Intolerance of Secular Academia
11:41 Arguments vs. Heart: Winning People, Not Just Debates
13:43 Facing a Panel: Spiritual and Intellectual Showdown
16:02 Courage, Fear, and Holy Spirit Empowerment
18:23 Confronting a Mob: Listening to Angry Students
21:26 Righteous Rage, Broken World: Turning Anger into Apologetics
24:37 Anxiety & Toxic Certainty: New Generation, New Challenges
28:20 Jordan Peterson Effect: Why Young Men Seek Church
29:51 Church’s Call: Preach a Robust, Demanding Faith
30:25 Preparation Meets Dependence: Mind on Fire, Heart Reliant

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What does it take to raise a generation that doesn’t just attend church, but actually transforms culture? In this episode of The Missional Leader, Rob sits down with Teo Hayashi, one of the youngest and most influential leaders in the global church, founder of the Dunamis Movement, and lead pastor of Zion Church, whose vision is igniting a wave of young leaders across Brazil and beyond.

Born in Japan and raised in Brazil, Teo’s multicultural story and supernatural encounters have fueled a movement that has grown from a small gathering in São Paulo to a multi-campus megachurch impacting nations across Europe, Asia, Africa, and the Americas. Together, Rob and Teo unpack how the Church can disciple the next generation with passion and purpose, moving beyond Sunday services to a lifestyle of mission, revival, and cultural renewal.

If you care about the future of the Church and how to equip young leaders to shape society, this is a conversation you won’t want to miss.

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

The Gospel of the Kingdom, by George Eldon Ladd
https://www.amazon.com/Gospel-Kingdom-Scriptural-Studies-God/dp/1614270562

The Gospel in a Pluralist Society, by Lesslie Newbigin
https://www.amazon.com/Gospel-Pluralist-Society-Lesslie-Newbigin/dp/0802804268

To Change the World: The Irony, Tragedy, and Possibility of Christianity in the Late Modern World, by James Davidson Hunter
https://www.amazon.com/Change-World-Tragedy-Possibility-Christianity/dp/0199730806

Modalities and Sodalities, The Two Structures of God's Redemptive Mission, by Ralph Winters
https://munsonmissions.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/606d6-two-structures-gods-redemptive-mission-winter.pdf

The Send Brazil
https://thesend.org/pt-br/

Dunamis Movement (revival and next gen)
https://dunamismovement.com/site/en/

CHAPTERS:
00:00 Rethinking Church: Local Care and Global Mission
03:31 Teo’s Multicultural Roots and Family Mission Story
07:33 Choosing Between Movement and Local Church
10:32 Balancing Mega Church with Missional Movement
12:16 Embracing Energy in Ministry Tension
13:45 Gospel of the Kingdom vs. Gospel of Salvation
17:14 Why Brazil’s Church Growth Lacks Societal Change
20:19 Equipping Young People for Vocational Purpose
23:02 Four KPIs for Measuring Church Transformation
27:36 Deep Discipleship in a Megachurch Context
29:09 Teo’s Global Apostolic Vision for Zion Church