Who is one of your favorite people to talk with? I had a fun conversation about good guides with one of my all-time favorite people, my husband, Darren Penny. You’ll hear us discuss the role of guides in our lives—how to seek them, how to be one, and how to navigate life with humility, courage, connection and vulnerability. Through personal stories, like Darren’s search for guidance in the absence of a father, we explore the deep need for relational wisdom during seasons of vulnerability.

We talk about how good guides meet us where we are, create safe spaces for growth, and remind us that being unfinished doesn’t disqualify us—it makes us ready. Whether you’re seeking direction or becoming someone others can trust, this conversation invites you to take the risk, know yourself, and walk the journey with others. I hope you will be encouraged to embrace your limitations, resist isolation, and choose human connection and vulnerability over quick fixes.

If you like what you hear, pick up a copy of my book Grace Space where I dive deeper into being a person that creates safe spaces for growth.

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Do you have a friendship that spans many seasons and plot twists of your life? Marriage, children, parenting, launching kids, career intersections, faith. You know, all the biggies. Someone you've had the privilege of being up close and personal with through the highs and lows. Alyssa Gluck is that person in my life. Alyssa is a credentialed teacher, holds a graduate degree in leadership, and works as an educational specialist for homeschool families.

In our conversation, we reflect on how life doesn’t take a straight path. It often has unexpected twists and turns. Plot twists, as a previous guest put it. When you have been thrown for a loop, a Good Guide coming along at just the right time is a gift. But isolation is a dangerous reaction in the middle of these plot twists. The very thing you need is a sage presence offering you a safe place to land and sort out where to go next. When the false belief “I have to do life on my own” gets replaced with the true belief “I get to reach out to a loving presence,” it makes all the difference. I love Alyssa's guidance for when a guide is no longer a good fit for where you want to go.

Listen in and learn what type of guidance you need. Perhaps you'll be sparked to be a good guide for someone in the spaces you live and lead.

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Do you have a person in your life that you can say anything to with zero filter, and you know you will be understood? Kelley Gray is this type of person. She listens compassionately and leaves her judgment at the door. All while offering valuable insight and discernment, guided by wisdom. That’s why I loved including her in my podcast series, Good Guides.

I have appreciated my friendship with Kelley over the years. We met when I needed some clear guidance. The direction I received from her stayed with me for years. It was her ability to empower me to lean into what my gut was whispering to me that made it a powerful connection.

And don’t we all need good guides during vulnerable times?

Kelley has the ability to shed light on a situation while affirming that your True Self gets to show up well. This makes her stand out as a Good Guide. I trust her because she is experienced in counseling, has a highly successful practice, is well-read and highly intelligent, but mostly because she has a good heart and lives out what she teaches.

Listen in to this conversation as I share some of my personal experience in getting guidance from her years ago. Kelley has the ability to make hard topics easy to discuss and understand. The takeaways she shares are invaluable. Her words will empower you to stay connected to your body, listen to your intuition, be guided by wisdom, and take the steps you need to go after the life only you are made for.

Much of what we talk about in this episode can be found in my book The Life You’re Made For

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Step into The Life You're Made For, I'm cheering you on!
heatherpenny.com
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Music by Jason Squires
Production by Cody Vermillion