My guest today is Dana Denis-Smith, who has been awarded an OBE, which is a recognition of an Officer of the Order of the British Empire. It’s a prestigious British honour and is the second-highest rank in the Order of the British Empire.

Dana is a prominent legal sector leader, serving as CEO of Obelisk Support and founder of the First 100 Years campaign.

Dana founded Obelisk Support in 2010, providing flexible legal solutions for clients.

The First 100 Years campaign, launched in 2014, led the celebrations surrounding the centenary of women in law and has now evolved into Next 100 Years.

Dana is widely respected for her advocacy in gender equality, entrepreneurship and legal technology.

Recognised with numerous awards and honours, including an OBE for services to women in law (2024).

She was elected Deputy Vice President of the Law Society of England and Wales in 2025 and is very likely to become President in 2027.

Dana also serves on the Law Society Council, representing women solicitors and advocating for diversity, equity and inclusion.

She is also a TEDx and keynote speaker, described as a “voice of reason” on law sector topics.

Today, we're covering how to achieve growth in an age of uncertainty.

Dana’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ddenissmith/

About Myerson Connections:
Myerson Solicitors is a 100% employee-owned independent law firm based in Altrincham, Greater Manchester.

Myerson supports many other law firms throughout the country on a daily basis through its referral network – Myerson Connections.

Not only does Myerson help other law firms with referrals, but also provides free peer-to-peer education, knowledge sharing and practice management support.

Discover more at myerson.co.uk/connections.

About Dan:
Currently, Dan is seeking a London Law Firm turning over £1.5M to £6M to invest in, so if you are interested in receiving investment to grow or sell your law firm or know someone who might be, please contact Dan on: dan@danwarburton.com

Dan also provides law firm owners with skills that increase their profitability while reducing their workload. He can show you strategies that have grown his clients' revenues from 15% to over 300% while more than halving their workload in less than a year.

To find out more about Dan and his programs, click here: https://www.danwarburton.com/

Or add Dan on LinkedIn here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/authordanwarburton/

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My guest today is Philip Devenish, a partner at Jones Day, which has offices in Dubai & London.

Philip dedicates his practice to dispute resolution and is renowned for resolving the most challenging, complex, and high-value international disputes. Over the past eight years, he has won or settled more than 95 per cent of his cases, with only one loss in over 8 years.

Philip has obtained billions of dollars for global corporations and financial institutions in some of the largest cross-border disputes of the past decade, as ranked by The American Lawyer.

His landmark victories include a 1.1 billion U S dollar damages award against Russia for the expropriation of banking investments in Crimea.

On the defence side, he successfully settled a $2 billion U S dollar dispute for Saudi Arabia on a drop-hands basis during the Qatar diplomatic crisis.

He is listed in The Legal 500 UK's Arbitration Powerlist of lawyers who are "deemed the gold standard by businesses" and is ranked by The Arbitrators as the top arbitration lawyer in the UAE.

Today, what we’re covering are the three secrets to winning high-value cases

About Myerson Connections:
Myerson Solicitors is a 100% employee-owned independent law firm based in Altrincham, Greater Manchester.

Myerson supports many other law firms throughout the country on a daily basis through its referral network – Myerson Connections.

Not only does Myerson help other law firms with referrals, but also provides free peer-to-peer education, knowledge sharing and practice management support.

Discover more at myerson.co.uk/connections.

About Dan:
Currently, Dan is seeking a London Law Firm turning over £1.5M to £6M to invest in, so if you are interested in receiving investment to grow or sell your law firm or know someone who might be, please contact Dan on: dan@danwarburton.com

Dan also provides law firm owners with skills that increase their profitability while reducing their workload. He can show you strategies that have grown his clients' revenues from 15% to over 300% while more than halving their workload in less than a year.

To find out more about Dan and his programs, click here: https://www.danwarburton.com/

Or add Dan on LinkedIn here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/authordanwarburton/

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My guest today is Michael Burne, the founder of Carbon and

Bamboo.He qualified as a solicitor in 1995 and, since 2010, has been challenging the way things are done in the legal sector.

Michael has experience from City law firms, a listed professional services business, and has led large-scale merger, acquisition and integration projects over the last 25 years.

He also recently launched a new Charity, Pioneer 7R, and is a director of a cricket club, which is also run as a charity.

In today’s episode, Why culture is vital for performance.

About Myerson Connections:
Myerson Solicitors is a 100% employee-owned independent law firm based in Altrincham, Greater Manchester.

Myerson supports many other law firms throughout the country on a daily basis through its referral network – Myerson Connections.

Not only does Myerson help other law firms with referrals, but also provides free peer-to-peer education, knowledge sharing and practice management support.

Discover more at myerson.co.uk/connections.

About Dan:
Currently, Dan is seeking a London Law Firm turning over £1.5M to £6M to invest in, so if you are interested in receiving investment to grow or sell your law firm or know someone who might be, please contact Dan on: dan@danwarburton.com

Dan also provides law firm owners with skills that increase their profitability while reducing their workload. He can show you strategies that have grown his clients' revenues from 15% to over 300% while more than halving their workload in less than a year.

To find out more about Dan and his programs, click here: https://www.danwarburton.com/

Or add him on LinkedIn here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/authordanwarburton/

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My guest today is the renowned David Burns, an equity partner at Ronald Fletcher Baker LLP, listed as a ‘leading Partner’ in the Legal 500 for corporate occupiers, and recommended for property litigation and commercial litigation.

The firm was founded in 1948 and now has around 140 employees, walk-in offices in Baker Street, Old Street, Exeter and Manchester, and some new offices opening soon.

On today’s episode, what we’re covering are the secrets to client trust and building a thriving culture

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About Myerson Connections:
Myerson Solicitors is a 100% employee-owned independent law firm based in Altrincham, Greater Manchester.

Myerson supports many other law firms throughout the country on a daily basis through its referral network – Myerson Connections.

Not only does Myerson help other law firms with referrals, but also provides free peer-to-peer education, knowledge sharing and practice management support.

Discover more at myerson.co.uk/connections.

About Dan:
Currently, Dan is seeking a London Law Firm turning over £1.5M to £6M to invest in, so if you are interested in receiving investment to grow or sell your law firm or know someone who might be, please contact Dan on: dan@danwarburton.com

Dan also provides law firm owners with skills that increase their profitability while reducing their workload. He can show you strategies that have grown his clients' revenues from 15% to over 300% while more than halving their workload in less than a year.

To find out more about Dan and his programs, click here: https://www.danwarburton.com/

Or add him on LinkedIn here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/authordanwarburton/

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Today I have one switched-on lady with me, Etiosa Agbonlahor

Etinosa is a behavioural economist and CEO of Decision Alpha, a behavioural pricing firm that helps businesses, including law firms, improve pricing for growth, traction, and stronger perceived value.

Etinosa is passionate about helping people live healthier financial lives, she brings over a decade of experience working across the U.S., Australia, Africa, and the U.K.—shaping pricing, engagement, and customer behavior strategy for global financial institutions and venture-backed startups.

Her work has been featured in MarketWatch, Morningstar, and other leading platforms, highlighting her focus on how behaviour drives financial outcomes.

Etinosa is the author of How to Talk to Your Parents About Money, a guide to navigating complex financial conversations.

Today, were covering Pricing effort, not outcomes, in an AI world

Here’s a link to Etinosa’s behavioural pricing playbook: playbook.decisionalpha.co

About Myerson Connections:
Myerson Solicitors is a 100% employee-owned independent law firm based in Altrincham, Greater Manchester.

Myerson supports many other law firms throughout the country on a daily basis through its referral network – Myerson Connections.

Not only does Myerson help other law firms with referrals, but also provides free peer-to-peer education, knowledge sharing and practice management support.

Discover more at myerson.co.uk/connections.

About Dan:
Currently, Dan is seeking a London Law Firm turning over £1.5M to £6M to invest in, so if you are interested in receiving investment to grow or sell your law firm or know someone who might be, please contact Dan on: dan@danwarburton.com

Dan also provides law firm owners with skills that increase their profitability while reducing their workload. He can show you strategies that have grown his clients' revenues from 15% to over 300% while more than halving their workload in less than a year.

To find out more about Dan and his programs, click here: https://www.danwarburton.com/

Or add him on LinkedIn here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/authordanwarburton/

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My guest today is the one and only James Chadburn.

James is the Managing Partner at Dean Wilson LLP, which is a full-service law firm based in Brighton with over 120 employees.

James has been Managing Partner at Dean Wilson for three and a half years, having made the transition from a role as a fee-earning corporate partner.

In this episode, we’re covering how law firms can use AI to scale and serve better without losing the soul of their practice.

Here’s a link to Dean Wilson LLP: https://deanwilson.co.uk/

About Myerson Connections:
Myerson Solicitors is a 100% employee-owned independent law firm based in Altrincham, Greater Manchester.

Myerson supports many other law firms throughout the country on a daily basis through its referral network – Myerson Connections.

Not only does Myerson help other law firms with referrals, but also provides free peer-to-peer education, knowledge sharing and practice management support.

Discover more at myerson.co.uk/connections.

About Dan:
Currently, Dan is seeking a London Law Firm turning over £3M or more to invest in, so if you are interested in receiving investment to grow or sell your law firm or know someone who might be, please contact Dan on: dan@danwarburton.com

Dan also provides law firm owners with skills that increase their profitability while reducing their workload. He can show you strategies that have grown his clients' revenues from 15% to over 300% while more than halving their workload in less than a year.

To find out more about Dan and his programs, click here: https://www.danwarburton.com/

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My guest today is none other than Liz Smith, a charismatic lady who is the Head of Talent at Bamboo Platform, which provides a centralised operational support to a group of legal businesses.

One of those is Carbon Law Partners, a consultancy law firm.

Through her work at Carbon, she helps lawyers step away from the structure they’ve always known and build something that gives them more freedom, control, and balance.

She knows that moving from a firm to self-employment is a big emotional shift, so her role is all about guidance, reassurance, and showing lawyers what’s really possible when they start to design work on their own terms.

She’s passionate about changing the narrative in law, proving that you can have both success and a life, and that you don’t have to sacrifice one for the other.

Before joining Carbon, Liz owned her own headhunting business for over 20 years. She understands both the ambition that drives lawyers and the fear that can hold them back.

What we're covering today is The Lawyer’s Identity Trap and how this often holds them back from creating a truly fulfilling career.

Here is a link to Liz on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lizziesmith/

About Dan:
Currently, Dan is seeking a London Law Firm turning over £3M or more to invest in, so if you are interested in receiving investment to grow or sell your law firm or know someone who might be, please contact Dan on: dan@danwarburton.com

Dan also provides law firm owners with skills that increase their profitability while reducing their workload. He can show you strategies that have grown his clients' revenues from 15% to over 300% while more than halving their workload in less than a year.

To find out more about Dan and his programs, click here: https://www.danwarburton.com/

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My next guest is the great Eliot Hibbert, the founder and CEO of Nexa Law Limited.

Nexa is a new model law firm established in 2017 and now has over 175 lawyers operating as consultants and over 300 people now using their Leap case managment.

Today, what we’re covering is The New Law Model That’s Crushing Competition

To find out more about nexa click here: https://nexa.law/

About Dan:
Currently, Dan is seeking a London Law Firm turning over £3M or more to invest in, so if you are interested in receiving investment to grow or sell your law firm or know someone who might be, please contact Dan on: dan@danwarburton.com

Dan also provides law firm owners with skills that increase their profitability while reducing their workload. He can show you strategies that have grown his clients' revenues from 15% to over 300% while more than halving their workload in less than a year.

To find out more about Dan and his programs, click here: https://www.danwarburton.com/

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